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[Steve Offiler]

I just recently gave up my XP machine at work and got a Win 7 workstation; NOT Win 8.  I would steer clear of 8, but, surely 7 is still available(?).  Win7 is not a great leap from XP and I get along with it just fine.  

I've never spent any time with a Mac, but, aren't they supposed to be nice and user-friendly?

SO

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On Nov 9, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Charlie V <1cdevill at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that, Len.  It sure looks like it might have some benefit.
> 
> Richard,  I am guessing you will not be impressed with Win 8 at all.  Many
> people are not.  I have it on one laptop. My biggest gripe is no Solitaire,
> Free Cell,  or Spider Solitaire.  These can be downloaded from the net, but
> are not the same version as was in Win 7.  Aside from that, it was designed
> for the cell phone / tablet generation with many, many apps.  A very large
> pain and some are always connected and can monitor all of your internet
> activity.  For marketing purposes they say.  Bull dung.  More likely spying.
> 
> I have always dragged shortcuts to my desktop for all of my regularly used
> web sights such as this one.  One mouse click and I am in. I usually have a
> desktop cluttered with shortcuts, but they are a great time and work saver.
> For almost everything else I usually just Google it.  Typing web addresses
> into a browser line has always seemed like a wasted effort.  If one uses
> desktop shortcuts on their desktop, Windows 8 can also be set up to do the
> same and can also have shortcuts for the Control Panel and other internal
> operating  tasks.  One of the apps on the Win 8 main screen brings up a
> pretty much blank desktop. From the many other apps, this desktop can be
> populated with all of your common programs and files so it looks and works
> much like Win 7.  I have done this with my laptop, but not being a computer
> wizzzz, I suspect it may have taken me five hours or more to figure all of
> this out.  After that it is somewhat downhill to populate the desktop.
> 
> Bottom line to me is:  Unless forced to do so, why does a person want to
> dump the money for a new computer that requires a bunch of learning over in
> order to have it function somewhat like your old one did.  I read that many
> companies have run training courses to familiarize their staff with Win 8.
> Now there is a money saver.
> 
> I do note that Windows 7 software packages can be purchased new with proper
> MS license fo under $ 100.  A person could buy a new unit and the separate
> Win 7 package to install in it, but that sure is an extra expense.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Charlie V.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Len Rugen <rugenl at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> You don't have to use the tough features and it will work without it.   I
>> have it on my older laptop to checkout, we are waiting for 8.1 at work.   I
>> found an add-on that makes 8.0 tolerable - http://www.classicshell.net/
>> 
>> Len Rugen
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>> On Saturday, November 9, 2013 4:04 PM, Richard Fink Sr <
>> rfinksr at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi need some feed back on computers. My computer with win XP has died was
>> looking at a new HP with win 8. Has any one run this and what are your
>> thoughts. I am old school love win XP and hate change have been told it is
>> all touch and so on takes special screen or monitor????????????????
>> R Fink
>> PA
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