[AT] Gas problem

Dave Rotigel rotigel at me.com
Mon May 6 17:12:56 PDT 2013


Many (read that MOST) farmers have been in a government welfare program for years--it's called "farm subsity'!
	Dave

On May 6, 2013, at 10:00 AM, charlie hill wrote:

> It's not often that you'll hear me speak ill of farmers but the
> ethanol fuel problem is driven by big AG and mid west corn farmers.
> Those boys love feeding at Uncle Sam's trough and don't think they
> can make a living growing corn for food or feed.  Take note that every
> recent Secretary of Agriculture (from either party) is from the mid west.
> 
> I'm able to get ethanol free about 1 mile from my home for about $3.89 a 
> gallon.
> That store also has fuel on the water for boat traffic and he has ethanol 
> free there.
> He is a Shell retailer but can't buy non ethanol from them.  He has to buy 
> it from a
> local independent jobber and put it in separate tanks at his boat dock.
> 
> There are a couple of other gas stations in the area that have it on the 
> automobile islands.
> I think they all use BP products.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Herb Metz
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:43 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Gas problem
> 
> Richard & Others,
> Yes, a gasoline problem.  I have spent hours recently with small gas engine
> service/repair men; replacing carb is their normal solution.  If you must
> continue using the existing carb, you may have to completely disassemble and
> carefully clean each item more than once.
> I am fortunate in that we have a small independent gas station close by that
> also offers 90 octane, ethanol-free gasoline at fifty cents/gallon more than
> todays regular (with 10% ethanol).  We now use this in all small engines,
> and plan using it in show tractors (don't want to be in a parade, etc and
> the engine starts acting up), and may add some to working tractors in late
> fall.
> Last week saw an article where the ethanol producers have sent a proposal to
> congress recommending the 10% useage rate be increased to 15%.   We need a
> couple dozen congressmen who mow their own yards; maybe then they would
> become sensitive to the situation.   We, as individuals, complain about this
> situation but few, if any, have corresponded with congress.
> Herb
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Richard Fink Sr
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:32 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] Gas problem
> 
> Hi all i have in last few days tried starting a tractor that sit for over a
> year. Problem good spark so went to gas nothing at carb. cleaned sediment
> bowl, no gas removed sediment bowl from tank. screen and passage way plugged
> solid wit what papers whit stuff. what is this, from moon shine in gas. Have
> it running some what now but may need to remove carb and clean it. Anything
> i can run through it that will dissolve this stuff. just put on new sediment
> bowl unit.
> Thank
> R Fink
> PA
> 
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