[AT] Gas problem now diesel

Rob Wilson ro.wilson at att.net
Mon May 6 13:54:36 PDT 2013


I use a pint of Pennzoil 2 cycle oil (NOT synthetic) from, as much as I hate
it White tras errrr I mean walmart when I can't get bio diesel. On the
Diesel truck forums there has been testing done showing the lubricity added
from one pint to a fill-up about 25 gallons is more than enough. With most
trucks no longer using mechanical pumps it's even more important with the
low sulfer crap they sell now. 
Rob

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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 1:12 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Gas problem now diesel

You beat me to it Ron, what are you guys with older diesels doing with the
ULSD that you have to buy now days? I have a circa 1974 Massey with a
perkins that I'm sure wasn't designed for the new diesel. I've heard of guys
adding 2 stroke oil to it but have not heard a ratio or anything. Mike M

On 5/6/2013 12:34 PM, Ron Cook wrote:
> Will,
>       You will.  The ultra low sulfur fuel is too dry and it ruins 
> some seals/o-rings in some systems.
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
> On 5/6/2013 11:01 AM, Will Powell wrote:
>> (sni
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>> I like my diesel bulldozer, I've never had a fuel issue with it...
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>> Regards,
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>> Will
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>> SE PA
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>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 11:40:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Gas problem
>>
>> The manual for my new Predator engine says it can use up to 10% 
>> ethanol but I'm not planning to take a chance on that unless I have to in
a  pinch.
>> One thing that will help is to shut the fuel off and run the carb dry 
>> after use.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike
>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:11 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Gas problem
>>
>> I've recently started adding Stabil ethanol treatment to my gas for 
>> all my small engines. Says it's supposed to take care of it, time will
tell.
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 5/6/2013 10:56 AM, Ron Cook wrote:
>>> Charlie,
>>>         You are about 85% correct.  The trouble is really government 
>>> in agriculture.
>>>         I am not going to say where I think the current Sec of AG 
>>> should be!!  I am just glad he is not my Governor.I
>>>         By the way, I have been using ethanol fuel since it came 
>>> available at my local station.  1977 or 78.  Zero problems with the 
>>> exception of the little fuel pump diaphragms in B&S carburetors.  I 
>>> do not let it sit in a piece of unused equipment, though.  I use 
>>> av-gas for that.  Of course, my flying background is the reason for 
>>> that.:-) Oxygenated fuels were mandated by the govmt.  Started on 
>>> the west coast and the original additive was a carcinogenic, I believe.
>>>         Subsidies are the culprit.  Market should control price and 
>>> availability for the most part.
>>>
>>>         Now back to the regular programming.
>>> Ron Cook
>>> Salix, IA
>>> On 5/6/2013 9:00 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>> It's not often that you'll hear me speak ill of farmers but the 
>>>> ethanol fuel problem is driven by big AG and mid west corn farmers.
>>>> Those boys love feeding at Uncle Sam's trough and don't think they 
>>>> can make a living growing corn for food or feed.  Take note that 
>>>> every recent Secretary of Agriculture (from either party) is from the
mid west.
>>>>
>>>> I'm able to get ethanol free about 1 mile from my home for about 
>>>> $3.89 a gallon.
>>>> That store also has fuel on the water for boat traffic and he has 
>>>> ethanol free there.
>>>> He is a Shell retailer but can't buy non ethanol from them.  He has 
>>>> to buy it from a local independent jobber and put it in separate 
>>>> tanks at his boat dock.
>>>>
>>>> There are a couple of other gas stations in the area that have it 
>>>> on the automobile islands.
>>>> I think they all use BP products.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
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