[AT] Gas problem now diesel

[charlie hill]

I haven't tried it yet but I've heard good things about Pri-G for Gas and 
Pri-D for Diesel for storage.
http://www.priproducts.com/consumer_products.cfm
I don't know if it's good as a lubricant additive or not.  Lucas I think 
makes some products for that.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 1:12 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Gas problem now diesel

You beat me to it Ron, what are you guys with older diesels doing with
the ULSD that you have to buy now days? I have a circa 1974 Massey with
a perkins that I'm sure wasn't designed for the new diesel. I've heard
of guys adding 2 stroke oil to it but have not heard a ratio or
anything. Mike M

On 5/6/2013 12:34 PM, Ron Cook wrote:
> Will,
>       You will.  The ultra low sulfur fuel is too dry and it ruins some
> seals/o-rings in some systems.
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
> On 5/6/2013 11:01 AM, Will Powell wrote:
>> (sni
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>> I like my diesel bulldozer, I've never had a fuel issue with it...
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Will
>>
>> SE PA
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 11:40:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Gas problem
>>
>> The manual for my new Predator engine says it can use up to 10% ethanol 
>> but
>> I'm not planning to take a chance on that unless I have to in a  pinch.
>> One thing that will help is to shut the fuel off and run the carb dry 
>> after
>> use.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike
>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:11 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Gas problem
>>
>> I've recently started adding Stabil ethanol treatment to my gas for all
>> my small engines. Says it's supposed to take care of it, time will tell.
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 5/6/2013 10:56 AM, Ron Cook wrote:
>>> Charlie,
>>>         You are about 85% correct.  The trouble is really government in
>>> agriculture.
>>>         I am not going to say where I think the current Sec of AG should
>>> be!!  I am just glad he is not my Governor.I
>>>         By the way, I have been using ethanol fuel since it came 
>>> available
>>> at my local station.  1977 or 78.  Zero problems with the exception of
>>> the little fuel pump diaphragms in B&S carburetors.  I do not let it sit
>>> in a piece of unused equipment, though.  I use av-gas for that.  Of
>>> course, my flying background is the reason for that.:-) Oxygenated fuels
>>> were mandated by the govmt.  Started on the west coast and the original
>>> additive was a carcinogenic, I believe.
>>>         Subsidies are the culprit.  Market should control price and
>>> availability for the most part.
>>>
>>>         Now back to the regular programming.
>>> Ron Cook
>>> Salix, IA
>>> On 5/6/2013 9:00 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>> It's not often that you'll hear me speak ill of farmers but the
>>>> ethanol fuel problem is driven by big AG and mid west corn farmers.
>>>> Those boys love feeding at Uncle Sam's trough and don't think they
>>>> can make a living growing corn for food or feed.  Take note that every
>>>> recent Secretary of Agriculture (from either party) is from the mid 
>>>> west.
>>>>
>>>> I'm able to get ethanol free about 1 mile from my home for about $3.89 
>>>> a
>>>> gallon.
>>>> That store also has fuel on the water for boat traffic and he has 
>>>> ethanol
>>>> free there.
>>>> He is a Shell retailer but can't buy non ethanol from them.  He has to
>>>> buy
>>>> it from a
>>>> local independent jobber and put it in separate tanks at his boat dock.
>>>>
>>>> There are a couple of other gas stations in the area that have it on 
>>>> the
>>>> automobile islands.
>>>> I think they all use BP products.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
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