[AT] 3 pt backhoe

[charlie hill]

Yep Herb that's about what it amounts too.  They will dig a hole, in time, 
if you don't care what it looks like.
The problem is not so much the backhoe it's self.  It is the fact that it is 
not rigidly enough connected to the
tractor and the 3 pt hitch is not really designed for attaching a backhoe 
and using it in anything more than light use.

Of course if Don can borrow one, I suppose it's worth a try.   Something 
about nothing ventured, nothing gained comes to mind.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Maynard
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:10 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] 3 pt backhoe

I just bought a new LS compact tractor, and there is an optional backhoe
for it.  Said backhoe is like $5-6000...  Mentioned it to a friend of mine,
and he replied with " you could buy a decent full size backhoe for that"

Sounds like sound advice to me!


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Herb Metz <metz-h.b at comcast.net> wrote:

> Charlie,
> "Jack of all trades, master of none."   Would that old expression apply
> here?
> I would borrow the one that has been offered, and add the reaction bar.
> Ideal, no; but neither is renting or contracting. Typically, the 
> contractor
> is in a hurry to get done, so now what do you do when you need a little 
> bit
> more work done, etc.  Likewise with renting.
> Will initial backfill be sand or screened on-site soil?
> Herb
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charlie hill
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 10:06 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] 3 pt backhoe
>
> Don,  I paid $1000.00 for one about 10 years ago, spent some time and 
> money
> modifying the hook up so that it would fit my 3pt hitch correctly,
> added a "reaction bar" to transfer the load off of the 3rd hitch point on
> the 3 pt hitch to the drawbar, hooked it all up, dug one hole with
> it, disconnected it and it's been sitting ever since.   It had plenty of
> power and my D-14 Allis handled the load ok but it is kind of like what
> a farmer friend of mine told another farmer about a Long tractor that the
> JD
> dealer had loaned him while they worked on his JD.
> The other farmer (who owned a Long) asked him how he liked it.  He said it
> wasn't worth a crap.  The Long owner said "why, It's got plenty of power".
> The JD owner said "an elephant's got plenty of power but you can't farm
> with
> him".
>
> That's pretty much the deal with my experience with a 3 pt backhoe
> attachment.  It'll dig and it'll work but you can't get anything done with
> it.
> You'll be better off to put your time and effort into a real backhoe or
> excavator, buy it, rent it, borrow it or steal it what ever you have to do
> but
> don't waste a lot of time with a 3pt hitch rig.  You'll find it very hard
> to
> do accurate work with it.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bowen
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:14 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] 3 pt backhoe
>
> I need to dig about 600' of 6' trench for a ground source heat pump,
> excavate a foundation and maybe dig a drain field.  With two tractors
> around here I wonder if a three point backhoe would be worth the
> investment.  How much tractor do one of those typically require?  I know
> where I can borrow one and have seen a couple of CL but do not know the
> power requirements.  Is there any sort of rule of thumb regarding boom
> length and bucket size?
>
> This is the Ozarks with lots of rocks.  Bedrock is not very far down but
> the area I plan to dig is the bottom of a little valley where there are
> fewer rocks and a 6' excavation the PO did for a basement did not hit
> bedrock.
>
> --
> Don Bowen           AD0BR
> "A man must keep a little back shop where he can be himself without
> reserve.
> In solitude alone can he know true freedom."
> -Michel De Montaigne 1588
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