[AT] garden question; potatoes

[Richard Fink Sr]

Thanks Al- Charlie that make it a bit clearer.
And yes i know about the pepper cross pollinate.
R Fink
PA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes


> Pretty much Richard.
>
> I don't consider hybrid seed non-organic because plant varieties naturally
> cross pollinate anyway.  If you don't believe it plant a row of bell 
> peppers
> alternated with hot peppers.  I promise you, you'll have HOT bell peppers.
> I think what the Organic folks would worry about is plants that are hybrid
> by means of gene splicing rather than through cross pollination.  For the
> most part I think they are worried about nothing but there is always the
> possibility that something totally un-natural gets "spliced in" so I guess
> that is what bothers them.  Pretty much ignorance of how it was done I
> think.
> I don't mean they are ignorant.  I mean they are suspicious of what might
> have
> been done and not disclosed.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Richard Fink Sr
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
> I have what may be a real dumb question. In organic farming how is it
> organic if using a hybrid seed. Or one that has been made to be better[
> witch means to me screwed with]  Charlie ain,t that what is to fix any
> problem throw money at it????????
> R Fink
> PA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
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> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
>
>> The lunatics are the county southeast of here, the liberal nut jobs are
>> southwest and we are the blithering idiots at the top of the "Triangle"
>> with
>> the huge corporate tax revenues who have proven you can throw money at
>> problems and not fix anything!
>>
>> Back to the organic, I don't know what she wanted with it but assuming it
>> really mattered, I didn't want any part of the liability. She may have
>> been
>> using it for mulch on certified organic vegetables. There is a rather
>> large
>> market here for fresh local grown produce (not necessarily organic).  Got
>> to
>> respect the folks doing it because they are generally doing it on a very
>> small, labor intensive scale---the new breed of small full-time farmers.
>> They do produce a much better product, equivalent to a personal garden in
>> my
>> opinion. And, their cash is green when they buy a load of straw for 
>> mulch!
>>
>> I do get inquiries for straw for strange uses though. One guy bought some
>> and was using it to locally grow some sort of farm-raised seafood
>> (remember
>> I am 3 hours from the ocean).  This was actually a small scale commercial
>> business.
>>
>> Another fellow came and measured the bale size and checked the weight. He
>> wanted to use it for insulating an exterior wall in a garage he was
>> converting to an office. Thank goodness the baler had been acting up and
>> the
>> length was varying a couple inches. I can see it now, he hauls away 50
>> bales
>> and brings back 15 to swap for something a little shorter so he can
>> squeeze
>> it in the wall--I'm not running a lumber yard!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: charlie hill
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:54 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>>
>> You do realize that you live in the lunatic capital county of NC and
>> possibly the S/E don't you?
>> I would have told her it was organic.  Get your chemistry text out. 
>> There
>> are two kinds of
>> things in the world, organic and inorganic.  Inorganic is minerals.  The
>> rest is organic.
>>
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:39 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>>
>> Speaking of genetically modified, got to love dealing with the general
>> public. I run an online ad to sell wheat straw most of the year. I had a
>> lady inquire this spring if I had organic wheat straw. I told her no but
>> if
>> she were to search around on the net there was a farm in NC that raised
>> organic wheat a couple years ago. Then she emailed back wanting to know 
>> if
>> I
>> "at least" had straw that was not genetically modified. I replied that 
>> GMO
>> wheat does not exist outside of research labs and test fields. Hybrid
>> crops
>> are not the same as GMO. I went on tell her about all the wonderful
>> chemical
>> fertilizer, insecticide, and herbicide I treated my wheat with. That was
>> enough to get her to go annoy someone else.
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
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