[AT] Ford 4000 Quitting Afer Running a While

[Tom]

it's all about experience. When I was in basic training, firing on the range with smgs,
the first action (instruction) when addressing a stoppage was to fit another mag and
recock the weapon and continue firing. The reason? 99.9999% percent of the time,
experience had shown a stoppage with a Sterling smg, was because it had run out
of ammo! :-)

Similarly with your tractor. A hand on the coil would have been all it took after the
establishment no spark. Hot coil = dud 99.999% OT.
However experience can come at a cost if there is not a degree of training or education
involved somewhere along the track...:-)
That's why people who "repair" things, charge what they do! :-(
Funnily enough, around here, motorcycle repair hourly rates are higher than automotive!

BTW The first instruction was: If you turned around on the range with a stopped SMG
in your hands, you got decked! 
Experience had shown that some stoppages were momentary! :-)

Tom







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> From: David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
>Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013 9:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [AT] Ford 4000 Quitting Afer Running a While
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>Yes when ignoring the multiple trips to purchase parts.  I see both 
>points of view but I agree with Dave here.  Plus the given that the 
>history of any work done on the tractor is suspect.  If it was simply 
>the time required to change the parts individually that would be my 
>decision but for me each parts run would take at the minimum of an hour 
>that could be used for mowing.
>
>David
>NW NC
>
>On 7/14/2013 4:28 PM, Tom wrote:
>> No, Dave, it would take me about 5 seconds to check the points
>>   and condenser and 5 minutes to change the coil.
>>
>> One mustn't compare one's own experience with another's; some
>> of us actually know how things work....
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Dave Rotigel<rotigel at me.com>
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013 7:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Ford 4000 Quitting Afer Running a While
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup, You could take 27 hours checking out ALL the necessary parts, or you could spend $100.00 and an hour of labor and get the same results. If your time is only worth $3-$4 dollars an hour, GO FOR IT!
>>>      Dave
>>> PS, For $100, I wouldn't give a darn what fixed it as long as it was cutting the grass once more!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>> The traditional garage money-making way?
>>>> Then you're still left not knowing which fixed the problem...
>>>> To me, it sounds like the coil, coils can simulate a fuel problem then
>>>> when cool work again; points are either good or bad; condensers are the
>>>> most maligned component in a coil setup, but minimal labour to fit with
>>>> points:- get replaced due to belts&  braces (suspenders?) approaches.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2013 11:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Ford 4000 Quitting Afer Running a While
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm suggesting a shotgun approach--points, coil and condenser.. Mine and
>>>>> dad's experience has been coils go out pretty quickly, as in seconds not
>>>>> minutes, leading me to think it could be the condenser, but I'd bet on the
>>>>> coil first. Considering the tractor is not at your house, it appears to be a
>>>>> bit of inconvenience to work on it, that’s why I'd change it all and be done
>>>>> with it. If all that doesn't solve the problem, I'd look into vapor locking.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hall
>>>>>
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