[AT] Water Lines

[charlie hill]

No doubt it makes a difference Dudley.   What I mentioned would be a much 
smaller personal version
of the tank that serves you and your neighbors but given the fact that you 
have that neighborhood tank
it might not make much difference except that it would tend to off set your 
flow loss through the 3/4" meter,
at least for a little while.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: drupert at seanet.com
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 3:01 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines

Charlie,

I built in 1978 and over the course of the next 25 years or so I thought
about doing a couple of things as did most of my neighbors living up on
the ridge I do.  However, six or seven years ago the water system went up
the hill behind us and put in a large holding tank.  They use the water
line that serves our meters to fill this tank which they start refilling
at 1:00 AM every night.  Except for the hour or so in the middle of the
night that it takes to refill the tank our pressure is now more than twice
what it was before the tank was added.  Incidentally this tank and pumps
were added because our entire water system (which serves maybe 300
customers) was deemed to have inadequate fire fighting capability and not
because the 50 or so of those customers living up on the hill were thought
to have inadequate water pressure.

Dudley

> Dudley,  you should have a check valve (backflow preventer) down just on
> your side of the meter.
> Have you ever thought about putting a pressurized (air bladder) storage
> tank
> at the end of your line where the water line
> enters your house?   That might stabilize your pressure and flow a bit at
> least initially for short
> runs like filling a pot or flushing the john.
>
> I would be surprised if Al has more than 5 or 10 feet of elevation change
> from his meter to his house.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drupert at seanet.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:07 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines
>
> I agree, Mike, re: your' comment on small pipe size.  Let me describe my
> own situation:  I have a 3/4" meter, the pressure at the meter on hot
> summer days (when most everyone around feels they have to be watering
> something) is often no better than 30 psi (I am on a community water
> system), my house (according to my GPS) is 30 feet higher in elevation
> than the meter and I have ~600 feet of 2" pipe between the meter and
> house.  I don't recall Al mentioning his pressure at the meter or if/how
> much of a rise he might have from his meter to the house so my situation
> may not be at all applicable to his.  But when I read that he was planning
> on 800-900 ft of 3/4 to 1 in pipe I did let out a "Yikes."
>
> Let me just add that pipe size CAN affect both flow AND pressure.  If I
> put a pressure gage on a hose bibe at the house (with no water running)
> the reading will be close to what it is down at the meter.  However, if I
> open a faucet or two at the house the pressure reading will then go down
> quite noticeable (in my case like 20% as I recall).  Of course the amount
> of the pressure loss is a function of the capacity of the water source to
> the meter -
>
> Dudley
>
>
>> I was at a town government meeting last night and mentioned this thread
>> to the town engineer. His reply was to never use less than 1" pipe for
>> an incoming water line, especially one as long as been mentioned. And he
>> also said that the 3/4" meter would be more than adequate. The problem
>> with the smaller line, as mentioned, isn't pressure loss, it is reduced
>> flow due to friction inside the line.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 1/3/2013 11:58 PM, moscowengnr at yahoo.com wrote:
>>> The posts on water lines were really informative. I am getting ready
>>> to install 500 to 600 feet of water line to connect a new cabin I am
>>> building on back of property where house in front burned down with
>>> Oklahoma wildfires.
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