[AT] Water Lines

[charlie hill]

It might not be a good idea in colder areas but here in the south putting 
the connections inside
a valve box wouldn't be a bad idea I think.     Electrical connections are 
required to be accessible
in the electrical code.  Maybe we should do the same with water piping.

Charlie


-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Meulenberg
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:41 PM
To: at
Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines

I wasn't aware that they made brass fittings, so that is what I based by 
recommendation of plastic fittings on. I'm sure you'll agree that plastics 
have come a long way since the 70's and 80's. My thought would be to try to 
get as few fittings as possible by ordering a 500 or 1000 ft roll and only 
have two fittings, one at the meter and one at the house.

Mike M


----- Receiving the following content ----- 
From: k7jdj
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Time: 2013-01-04, 21:55:01
Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines


Cecil,

No, Shark Bites can not be buried. Here is a link to the Ford brand

http://www.fordmeterbox.com/products/productview.php?catSec=J

Gary
Renton, WA







-----Original Message-----
From: Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
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Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:41 pm
Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines


Are those Ford fittings what we call Shark Bite fittings here??

Cecil in OKla

On 1/4/2013 7:49 PM, k7jdj at aol.com wrote:
> As I said in a previous post I would not use plastic fittings with poly 
> pipe.
All of the fittings I used in the 70's in my own installation failed in the
90's. One was under the concrete in my shop. The pipe was buried with sand 
and
I still had fitting failures and yes they were schedule 40. In my business I
have repaired/replaced 100 psi pipe and plastic fittings. They have been 
good
for my business. They seem to last about 10 to 20 years. I agree that 
galvanized
steel fittings are not good so I use brass. If I can convince the customer, 
I
use compression fittings (some plumbers call them Ford fittings, which is a
brand name). That is what all of the water districts use in this area. Most 
of
the water districts in my area (Western Washington) require 200 psi 1 inch 
Iron
Pipe Size (IPS). Glued pipe is discouraged and in some cases not allowed.
>
> Gary
> Renton, WA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Meulenberg <meulenms at gmx.com>
> To: at <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 1:31 pm
> Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines
>
>
> Was just at Lowes and they have 100' x 1" for 54.00 it's the 160 psi 
> variety,
I
> suspect you may be able to special order a 500' coil. They had larger 
> sized as
> well. I agree with Cecil, I would use plastic fitting with Marine grade
clamps,
> the steel ones rust and corrode. I would choose poly over PVC, its really
tough
> stuff and not brittle like PVC.
>
> Mike M
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> ----- Receiving the following content -----
> From: charlie hill
> Receiver: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Time: 2013-01-04, 09:54:44
> Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines
>
>
> There is a Tractor Supply not far from Al that has 1" 100 psi x 300' roll
> for $85.00.
> I suspect someone around his place has it even cheaper than that.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:05 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines
>
> Lowe's has a lot of it at a reasonable price. I used to buy a lot of
> pipe at Pumpco Supply, I think they also had a store in Tulsa. Locke
> Supply will give a pretty god discount to the end user. You can also
> use the 1 inch 200 psi PVC glued joint. I have pulled that pipe in a
> ripped trench also. I have 3000 ft of pipe 6 ft deep for my heat
> exchanger here. It is 2 inch 160 psi. The black plastic pipe connects
> with barbed connections and hose clamps. Contrary to this list opinion,
> I have had very good success with plastic Hose barbs. The galvanized
> ones rust. The olastic ones I have used were the same size as schedule
> 40 PVC. The new PEX pipe that used copper crimp rings is really great.
> I have used it and had good success. The 1 inch pex uses brass barbs.
>
> If I was to build a new heat and air system, I would use a ground source
> heat pump for my air conditioning and water heating, then an outdoor
> boiler for heating the house, water, dryer, and stock tank heat.
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
> On 1/3/2013 10:58 PM, moscowengnr at yahoo.com wrote:
>> The posts on water lines were really informative. I am getting ready to
>> install 500 to 600 feet of water line to connect a new cabin I am 
>> building
>> on back of property where house in front burned down with Oklahoma
>> wildfires.
>>
>> Where can you purchase the rolled plastic pipe that was mentioned in some
>> of the posts??
>>
>> Is this similar to what is used for some gas lines??
>>
>> Does it do joints by heating and pressing together?? if so does this work
>> well?? where do you get tools for this??
>>
>> This may be interesting for water lines, but I also want to try some
>> experimenting with ground heat exchangers for heat and air. Having a long
>> roll of plastic pipe would help with a few trial projects both in
>> Oklahoma, and also here in Texas for my shop here.
>>
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>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dennis
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