[AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?

Fri Jan 4 07:25:53 PST 2013

Charlie,

In Richlands, Turn on the street between Andy's and Richlands First Baptist Church and go about a mile and a half.  It's on the right up in the field.  Not in town, but close enough we will be able to run to the store for a gallon of milk if we need to---and I can be back to the farm in 15 minutes if need be.

Al

-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 4, 2013 10:05 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>
>When you get an "overflow" like that you've usually got good quality water.
>Where is your place Al?
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Al Jones
>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:44 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>
>Gotcha. Yeah all the wells around here had been dug well before my time.  I 
>remember one shallow well in one of grandaddy's hog pens, It had been more 
>or less abandoned and the pitcher pump removed so that the 2" pipe was 
>sticking out of the ground about 2'.  Unless it was really dry, water would 
>run out of it like a spring.  I thought that was pretty cool!
>
>Al
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: Jan 4, 2013 8:08 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>
>>Al,  I figured you would know that.  Old Ford axles can be taken out of the
>>rear end housing and reassembled so that both axles and
>>the ring gear are in one solid piece.   That gives you a big heavy object
>>with a lead rod that will fit inside a pump pipe and a flat place
>>on the back of the ring gear to hit the top of the pump pipe.  You lift and
>>drop the axle and drive the pump pipe.
>>
>>I bet you've seen one standing in the corner of someone's barn,  maybe your
>>grandfather's, and didn't know why it was there.
>>It was a common "appliance" around many farms from the 60's back.
>>
>>Charlie
>>
>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: robertbobmull.ga at att.net
>>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 6:09 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>
>>You stick the axle in the pipe and drive it in the ground. You can get a
>>couple of 55 gal drums of water, a pump and jet the pipe into the ground
>>also just like you put in wellpoints on a construction project.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Al Jones <farmallsupera at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie,
>>>
>>> I hadn't even thought about shooting a shallow well, but that is a good
>>> idea.  I am sure I have enough redneck buddies close by that would be 
>>> glad
>>> to help.
>>>
>>> One question:  What is the Ford truck axle for?  I am sure the answer is
>>> obvious but I'm missing it....
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Jan 2, 2013 8:33 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>>
>>>> Al, that's what I think I would do too.   As far as a private well goes,
>>>> after the house is built and you have the certificate of occupancy
>>>> go get a point, a few joints of galvanized pump pipe and an old Ford 
>>>> rear
>>>> axle and drive your own shallow well in your back yard.
>>>> A hand pump or shallow well pump with pull water about 30' if you have a
>>>> good flow.  I promise you there is good water in your area
>>>> a lot less than 30'.  Just one precaution.  If your lot is on heavy land
>>>> (clay) and you think it was ever in tobacco and treated with Telone C
>>>> or any of a handful of other soil treatments make sure to have the water
>>>> tested before you use it.  There is subdivision over off of hwy 42
>>>> between
>>>> Clayton and Fuquay Varina where every well in the S/D was contaminated
>>>> with
>>>> Telone and a lot of folks got sick before it was figured out.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Al Jones
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:18 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>>
>>>> Charlie,
>>>>
>>>> Based on other responses so far, I'm leaning towards the 1" line with a
>>>> 3/4"
>>>> meter.  I just can't stomach that extra money for a meter that's 1/4"
>>>> bigger!
>>>>
>>>> The whole reason I'm going with county water as opposed to a well is 
>>>> pure
>>>> convenience. It seems like when a pressure switch goes bad, it's always
>>>> at
>>>> the most inconvenient time possible.  Plus, the county we are building 
>>>> in
>>>> is
>>>> so persnickity about things, I feel like there is just less red tape 
>>>> just
>>>> hooking on.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Jan 2, 2013 6:55 PM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Al,  of course the 1" would be better but I'm thinking the 3/4 meter
>>>>> with
>>>>> the 1" line might be a good idea.
>>>>> The thing is that you are pushing the water so far and there is some
>>>>> degree
>>>>> of flow restriction in the pipe.
>>>>> A 1" pipe will flow approximately 75% more water at the same pressure 
>>>>> as
>>>>> a
>>>>> 3/4" line.  Do the 1" meter if you
>>>>> can stomach the impact fee.  If not save that 1600 and spend it on
>>>>> putting
>>>>> in a well of your  own (even if it's a
>>>>> shallow well) so you will have a back up water source for watering
>>>>> flowers
>>>>> and washing cars and in case something
>>>>> happens to the water supply from the county.
>>>>>
>>>>> We were where we are before there was county water here.  When it came
>>>>> through I didn't sign on and we are still on
>>>>> well water.  20 years more or less later I've spent maybe 100 buck on
>>>>> water
>>>>> pump repairs (pressure switches, and air
>>>>> volume control valves) and haven't paid a water bill yet.  The only 
>>>>> down
>>>>> side is that there is some iron in our water that is
>>>>> not present in our county water but otherwise the water quality from 
>>>>> the
>>>>> well is just as good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>>> From: Al Jones
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:06 PM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WARNING: OFF TOPIC!
>>>>>
>>>>> My wife and I are building a house, and it’s time to put the water 
>>>>> meter
>>>>> down out at the highway.  This is my first experience with “county
>>>>> water,”
>>>>> as I have always lived in a house on its own well.  I am hoping that 
>>>>> the
>>>>> convenience of not maintaining a pump will be worth it in  the long 
>>>>> run.
>>>>> Plus, we will be living in the town ETJ, and I expect “one of these
>>>>>  days”
>>>>> they will run a municipal sewer line and we’ll have to connect anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a choice of a meter with a 3/4" hookup, pretty much the standard
>>>>> deal
>>>>> around here, or a 1” hookup.  The 1” meter is $170 more than the 3/4"
>>>>> meter,
>>>>> but the highway robbery, uh, I mean “impact fee” is $1600 more for the
>>>>>  1”
>>>>> meter.  Our house is between 800 and 900 feet from the road and where
>>>>> the
>>>>> meter will be.  Should I bite the bullet and go for the 1” connection 
>>>>> or
>>>>> will a 3/4" line give acceptable pressure and flow?  My contractor
>>>>> suggests
>>>>> the 1” meter, and I have had others advise either one will work.  One
>>>>> even
>>>>> suggested just installing the 3/4" meter but run a 1" pipe to the 
>>>>> house.
>>>>>
>>>>> We won't be doing anything fancy, just water needs for a 3 bedroom, 2.5
>>>>> bath
>>>>> house.  No lawn irrigation other than filling up a watering can when I
>>>>> plant
>>>>> marigolds or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the meter goes in, I intend to run the line to the house myself.
>>>>> If
>>>>> so, I will be using the 424 IH with a middlebuster to dig the trench 
>>>>> (if
>>>>> it
>>>>> will go deep enough) and the Super A with IH Fast Hitch blade to
>>>>> backfill.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>>
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