[AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?

Fri Jan 4 07:05:06 PST 2013

When you get an "overflow" like that you've usually got good quality water.
Where is your place Al?

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Jones
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:44 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?

Gotcha. Yeah all the wells around here had been dug well before my time.  I 
remember one shallow well in one of grandaddy's hog pens, It had been more 
or less abandoned and the pitcher pump removed so that the 2" pipe was 
sticking out of the ground about 2'.  Unless it was really dry, water would 
run out of it like a spring.  I thought that was pretty cool!

Al

-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 4, 2013 8:08 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>
>Al,  I figured you would know that.  Old Ford axles can be taken out of the
>rear end housing and reassembled so that both axles and
>the ring gear are in one solid piece.   That gives you a big heavy object
>with a lead rod that will fit inside a pump pipe and a flat place
>on the back of the ring gear to hit the top of the pump pipe.  You lift and
>drop the axle and drive the pump pipe.
>
>I bet you've seen one standing in the corner of someone's barn,  maybe your
>grandfather's, and didn't know why it was there.
>It was a common "appliance" around many farms from the 60's back.
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: robertbobmull.ga at att.net
>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 6:09 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>
>You stick the axle in the pipe and drive it in the ground. You can get a
>couple of 55 gal drums of water, a pump and jet the pipe into the ground
>also just like you put in wellpoints on a construction project.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Al Jones <farmallsupera at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> I hadn't even thought about shooting a shallow well, but that is a good
>> idea.  I am sure I have enough redneck buddies close by that would be 
>> glad
>> to help.
>>
>> One question:  What is the Ford truck axle for?  I am sure the answer is
>> obvious but I'm missing it....
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> Sent: Jan 2, 2013 8:33 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>
>>> Al, that's what I think I would do too.   As far as a private well goes,
>>> after the house is built and you have the certificate of occupancy
>>> go get a point, a few joints of galvanized pump pipe and an old Ford 
>>> rear
>>> axle and drive your own shallow well in your back yard.
>>> A hand pump or shallow well pump with pull water about 30' if you have a
>>> good flow.  I promise you there is good water in your area
>>> a lot less than 30'.  Just one precaution.  If your lot is on heavy land
>>> (clay) and you think it was ever in tobacco and treated with Telone C
>>> or any of a handful of other soil treatments make sure to have the water
>>> tested before you use it.  There is subdivision over off of hwy 42
>>> between
>>> Clayton and Fuquay Varina where every well in the S/D was contaminated
>>> with
>>> Telone and a lot of folks got sick before it was figured out.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Al Jones
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:18 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>
>>> Charlie,
>>>
>>> Based on other responses so far, I'm leaning towards the 1" line with a
>>> 3/4"
>>> meter.  I just can't stomach that extra money for a meter that's 1/4"
>>> bigger!
>>>
>>> The whole reason I'm going with county water as opposed to a well is 
>>> pure
>>> convenience. It seems like when a pressure switch goes bad, it's always
>>> at
>>> the most inconvenient time possible.  Plus, the county we are building 
>>> in
>>> is
>>> so persnickity about things, I feel like there is just less red tape 
>>> just
>>> hooking on.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Jan 2, 2013 6:55 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>>
>>>> Al,  of course the 1" would be better but I'm thinking the 3/4 meter
>>>> with
>>>> the 1" line might be a good idea.
>>>> The thing is that you are pushing the water so far and there is some
>>>> degree
>>>> of flow restriction in the pipe.
>>>> A 1" pipe will flow approximately 75% more water at the same pressure 
>>>> as
>>>> a
>>>> 3/4" line.  Do the 1" meter if you
>>>> can stomach the impact fee.  If not save that 1600 and spend it on
>>>> putting
>>>> in a well of your  own (even if it's a
>>>> shallow well) so you will have a back up water source for watering
>>>> flowers
>>>> and washing cars and in case something
>>>> happens to the water supply from the county.
>>>>
>>>> We were where we are before there was county water here.  When it came
>>>> through I didn't sign on and we are still on
>>>> well water.  20 years more or less later I've spent maybe 100 buck on
>>>> water
>>>> pump repairs (pressure switches, and air
>>>> volume control valves) and haven't paid a water bill yet.  The only 
>>>> down
>>>> side is that there is some iron in our water that is
>>>> not present in our county water but otherwise the water quality from 
>>>> the
>>>> well is just as good.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Al Jones
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:06 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WARNING: OFF TOPIC!
>>>>
>>>> My wife and I are building a house, and it’s time to put the water 
>>>> meter
>>>> down out at the highway.  This is my first experience with “county
>>>> water,”
>>>> as I have always lived in a house on its own well.  I am hoping that 
>>>> the
>>>> convenience of not maintaining a pump will be worth it in  the long 
>>>> run.
>>>> Plus, we will be living in the town ETJ, and I expect “one of these
>>>>  days”
>>>> they will run a municipal sewer line and we’ll have to connect anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I have a choice of a meter with a 3/4" hookup, pretty much the standard
>>>> deal
>>>> around here, or a 1” hookup.  The 1” meter is $170 more than the 3/4"
>>>> meter,
>>>> but the highway robbery, uh, I mean “impact fee” is $1600 more for the
>>>>  1”
>>>> meter.  Our house is between 800 and 900 feet from the road and where
>>>> the
>>>> meter will be.  Should I bite the bullet and go for the 1” connection 
>>>> or
>>>> will a 3/4" line give acceptable pressure and flow?  My contractor
>>>> suggests
>>>> the 1” meter, and I have had others advise either one will work.  One
>>>> even
>>>> suggested just installing the 3/4" meter but run a 1" pipe to the 
>>>> house.
>>>>
>>>> We won't be doing anything fancy, just water needs for a 3 bedroom, 2.5
>>>> bath
>>>> house.  No lawn irrigation other than filling up a watering can when I
>>>> plant
>>>> marigolds or something.
>>>>
>>>> When the meter goes in, I intend to run the line to the house myself.
>>>> If
>>>> so, I will be using the 424 IH with a middlebuster to dig the trench 
>>>> (if
>>>> it
>>>> will go deep enough) and the Super A with IH Fast Hitch blade to
>>>> backfill.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
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