[AT] old corn planters

[Al Jones]

On the 7000 planters (7200 and newer too) they made a "wide" model you could go from say 34" rows out to 40" or more, and a narrow model for 30" rows, etc.  They plant good but I despised to work on ours--they are like deere combines, everything you need to work on is behind, inside, or underneath something else....

The deere 71 unit planters bring decent money but I would think if you have a toolbar already they are cheaper than a worn out 7000....

Al


-----Original Message-----
>From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>Sent: Feb 23, 2013 7:56 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] old corn planters
>
>I'm probably going to stick with a plate type planter, trying to keep cost 
>minimal for now. We have worn out a couple 4 row Deeres in the past.  About 
>time the last one got parked, commodity prices had gotten so low that we 
>couldn't compete--Our area yields nothing like the eastern part of the state 
>or the Midwest. I need to get back into corn since we can no longer grow 
>soybeans due to deer pressure.  I see the 7000 series planters for sale at 
>decent prices but I want to start small (cheap) to see how this goes. Even 
>with higher prices, corn is still the most risky thing we can grow. If it 
>goes well I may go for one of them. Deere dealers are more common and their 
>products hold value better around here.  Are the row widths adjustable on 
>the 7000 series?
>
>We used to mix diesel and motor oil together and blow it on the fertilizer 
>hoppers on both the corn planter and the grain drill. That still doesn't 
>stop the rust though! I think the last planter had the fertilizer boxes 
>replaced one time and I had patched them up with Bondo. I recently passed up 
>a 1240 as the fertilizer had literally corroded the fertilizer boots to the 
>point you could break chunks off of them. It was a good machine other than 
>the fertilizer system. Same story with an IH machine about 10 miles from 
>here. Fiberglass hoppers were a great idea!
>
>John
>
>
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: David Steinich
>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:23 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] old corn planters
>
>John,
>What type of corn are you going to grow? How much, and what are you going
>to do with it? What type of tractor will you use to plant? Row spacing on
>the planter needs to match that of the picker/combine. Also best if the
>number of rows matches between the two machines. (But you can pick more
>rows than you plant at a time IF you are good at keeping your row spacing
>even between planter passes.)  With the older AC and JD planters you need
>to match the seed shape/size with the plates you use. If you jump up to the
>1970s vintage, the finger pickup units on the JD 7000 series planters will
>plant "any" corn seed. Around here (southern WI), you can pick them up
>fairly reasonable.
>(Some times with no-til setups.) It's also fairly easy to adjust them to
>the number of rows and row spacing you prefer. We see a lot of the cut down
>to two rows and listed as "deer plot" planters. Of course that label comes
>with a premium price,,, Another consideration is if you would benefit from
>using a starter fertilizer at planting time. Dry is easy to work with in
>smaller quantities, but you need to clean the planter and use some form of
>rust protection or it will destroy that part of the planter,,,
>Dave
>
>On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I don't know what your soil conditions are where you live but my Dad used
>> a JD 490 4 row planter tow behind in NW Iowa many years(40's to 60's) with
>> extremely good luck. One of the most desirable JD collector implements is 
>> a
>> two row version of that (JD 290) either tow behind or three point hitch
>> version.  They are very good planters.  He only used the split wedge type
>> shoe on the planter head, which I think you are calling the sword type. 
>> New
>> replacement shoes are still available.  The only time I remember him 
>> having
>> any kind of trouble with these type shoes is if an old cornstalk got stuck
>> in the shoe which wasn't very often. I vaguely remember a finger that was
>> placed directly ahead of the shoe to brush aside any trash.  I suppose a
>> really dirty field might require something that cut up the trash but they
>> would have to be really sharp to work very well.  PS: This is why my Dad
>> was so fussy about making sure we covered up all the trash when we plowed
>> oh so deep  :-) .
>>
>> If you find something like this of interest I can email you a Parts
>> Catalog for these types of JD Planters.  Obviously there are newer 
>> versions
>> of these two row planters but they might be even more expensive.
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Apache Junction, AZ 85120
>>
>> "A picture is worth a 1,000 words, but it uses up to 12,000 times the
>> memory"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:
>> at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of jtchall at nc.rr.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:27 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: [AT] old corn planters
>>
>> I am looking into planting some corn this year. I’ve got a fellow that can
>> plant it for me, if my fields are ready when he is in the neighborhood 
>> with
>> his rig. Ideally, I would rather have my own planter. I prefer a 2 row so
>> it will free up duties on the 2 tractors that I would use with a 4-row.
>> Besides, it would take up much less shed space.
>>
>> I’ve seen a lot of 2 row Ford 3pt planters (model 309 I think) on
>> Craigslist. The only thing I don’t like is they are a sword type planter
>> instead of disc row openers. I’ve also seen a couple 2 row AC planters 
>> that
>> appeared to be tow behind units. Anybody had any experience with these
>> small planters or have one you would recommend? I wouldn’t mind having
>> no-till but those aren’t very cheap.
>>
>> Thoughts on the matter?
>>
>> John Hall
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