[AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)

[charlie hill]

Steve,   MultiTrac is what I use in my AC tractors.
Around here you can buy that at Tractor Supply, Autozone and a lot
of other places.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stephen Offiler
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:52 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)

THANKS for all the responses!  I believe I have figured out what happened:

If you note in my story, they pulled out some documents from under the
counter and showed me one that indicated it was compatible with Ford
M2C134D.  Here it is:  (scroll down to page 2)

http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20Multitrac%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf

But that is NOT the oil they sold me.  The above is a different Coastal
product, called MultiTrac.  What I got was Coastal 303, which, when you
look at the data sheet, is obviously the wrong stuff:

http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20303%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf

I think it was an honest mistake by the counter guy.  I don't think they
stock the MultiTrac and he mistakenly believed he was showing me the
correct data sheet.

SO


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Alan Riley <arr44 at suddenlink.net> wrote:

> I also have a Ford 1520, a 1987 year model, 2wd, 9x3 transmission.  When I
> changed
> it's hydraulic oil and filter the last time, I was still able to get the
> Ford 134 oil and the
> filter at the local NH dealer.  That has been several years back though 
> and
> the nearest
> NH dealer is now 65 miles away.
>
> I don't recall for certain the revision number on the 134 oil I used but I
> think it may
> have been D.  Maybe I should have stocked up on the oil when I had the
> chance.
>
> Alan Riley
> Deville, LA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Offiler
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:10 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
>
> I've got a 1991 Ford 1520, a Japanese-built 23HP diesel 4x4 hydrostatic
> from approx 1991, just before Ford sold to New Holland.  A few weeks ago I
> did a 1000-hr major maintenance including hydraulic fluid change.  I've 
> got
> the original service manual, which calls for "Ford 134" fluid.  The only
> other reference in the manual is to Ford part numbers 1GM-134C (1 gal) and
> 5GM-134C (5 gal).  Searching around the net, I concluded this stuff must 
> be
> Ford M2C134x fluid where the x is like a revision, starting with A which
> apparently was used in the 8N era... hence, this really isn't all that OT
> after all.  Looks like they were up to rev C in the early 1990's based on
> what is called out in my manual, and it also looks like the modern 
> standard
> is up to D now.  If I got any of that wrong PLEASE jump in.
>
> I ended up purchasing Coastal 303 Tractor Fluid, which I was a bit leery
> about, until the sales guy pulled out a multi-page document from behind 
> the
> counter that listed a wealth of detail on Coastal 303, including
> compatibility with the Ford M2C134D spec.  OK then, sold.
>
> The problem I am having now is that the fluid seems too viscous.  As the
> cold weather arrived, I immediately noticed that the loader lifted slowly
> and the bucket roll was almost ridiculously slow.  Not long after that, it
> literally blew the gasket off the hydrostatic filter.  My first clue was
> copious amounts of fluid pouring from the filter area, and once I removed
> it, I observed the gasket was out of place.  I tucked it back in, 
> tightened
> the filter up real good, and it was OK for another couple weeks.  Just
> today, same thing, it's pouring out the filter gasket again.  I am
> concluding that the fluid is too thick, the flow is too slow, building
> pressure on the return side (filter side), and that's what is blowing the
> gasket.
>
> If I got all this right, that means Coastal 303 is NOT so very equivalent
> to Ford M2C134D after all.  Does anybody have any knowledge of these
> fluids?  What do I really need to be shopping for?  (I don't know where or
> IF I could even find genuine Ford fluid any more)
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Steve O.
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