[AT] lost--generators

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sun Dec 22 09:44:45 PST 2013


Al, in the grand scheme of things it's not that expensive to do and
sure is a nice convenience.  I wish I had one and maybe I will someday.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Jones
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:17 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] lost--generators


Charlie, what you describe is another example of what I call "progress."  I 
mean "progress" very tongue-in-cheek of course.

Our house is done and we're moving stuff in.  Had hoped to be in by 
Christmas but not there yet.....anyway when we are settled and caught up I 
want a stand-alone generator that will run the whole house as you describe.

I don't remember anyone owning a generator around here unless it was 
connected to a welding machine.  After hurricane bertha & fran in 1996 they 
became much more common.

Al

-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 22, 2013 10:32 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] lost--generators
>
>Ralph,  I know several folks who have dedicated stand by
>generator sets wired into there houses.  These things are
>in insulated, soundproofed containers.   They start themselves
>once a week or so and run for a few minutes.  Some are wired to
>send diagnostic data to the owners computer.  When the power goes
>out the use an automatic transfer switch and the lights in the house
>barely blink.
>
>Ice storms are not our primary concern.  We live in hurricane country.
>We've been relatively lucky in recent years but sooner or later a
>bad one will hit.
>
>We have a lot of retired people here and while I hesitate to bad mouth
>them, most of them have no real ties to the community and behave as if
>they are living in an armed camp rather than trying to become a part of the
>community.  They have a bad habit that infuriates me but as long as the big
>box stores put up with it they will continue.  If a hurricane is expected,
>these
>folks will go to Lowes, etc. and buy up all of the portable gensets they
>have
>on hand, take them to their houses and hold them.  If their power doesn't 
>go
>out or is only out for a while they take them back a week or so later and
>demand
>their money back.  Meanwhile some of the locals who don't have the extra
>cash
>to do that will end up loosing their power and in desperation scrape up the
>money
>to buy a generator only to find the are all gone.   Then the next week 
>Lowes
>is
>loaded with returned generators.  Some are still in the boxes unopened.
>Some have
>been removed but not run but some of these folks have the nerve to run the
>things
>for a few hours or days and then take them back with some complaint about
>performance and still demand and get their money.
>
>I don't blame this on the retirees lightly.  I've heard them brag about
>doing it.  I've never
>heard a local talk about doing it.   The up side of the situation is that 
>if
>you get in tight
>with the folks at Lowes you can get a deal on a unit a few days after a
>storm.
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Ralph Goff
>Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:00 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] lost--generators
>
>On 12/22/2013 8:19 AM, Richard Fink Sr wrote:
>> We have a 10KW gas powered  welder generator in the little garage. have 
>> it
>> wired under ground to house will run complete house. Have it for snow and
>> ice storms. Have not used it where we live now. And have a 3500 to loan 
>> to
>> neighbors if needed.
>> R Fink
>> PA
>Interesting to see how well prepared some of you are for long term power
>outages. I guess we have been lulled into a false sense of security here
>by years of never having needed any back up power source . Ice storms
>are rare here, or if they do happen it is not to the degree that you
>have in the south or east. A lot of the power lines are underground in
>this area which helps too .
>Plus, trying to start a generator out in the cold at -20 or worse below
>could be a real challenge. And don't even think about firing up a diesel
>tractor without a power source to pre heat the engine. I could likely
>get the old gas powered tractors running to power a pto generator but
>considering fuel costs of close to $15 per hour even for small tractors,
>it would be an expensive option.
>It is happening in Eastern Canada right now according to this news.
> 
> http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Travel+chaos+power+outages+storm+grips+Ontario+Quebec+Maritimes/9315648/story.html
>
>Ralph in Sask.
>>
>
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