[AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
Sun Dec 8 05:24:34 PST 2013
Steve
Sounds like the guy made an honest mistake.
Good thing you only blew out one gasket!!
Bob
---- Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
> THANKS for all the responses! I believe I have figured out what happened:
>
> If you note in my story, they pulled out some documents from under the
> counter and showed me one that indicated it was compatible with Ford
> M2C134D. Here it is: (scroll down to page 2)
>
> http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20Multitrac%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf
>
> But that is NOT the oil they sold me. The above is a different Coastal
> product, called MultiTrac. What I got was Coastal 303, which, when you
> look at the data sheet, is obviously the wrong stuff:
>
> http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20303%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf
>
> I think it was an honest mistake by the counter guy. I don't think they
> stock the MultiTrac and he mistakenly believed he was showing me the
> correct data sheet.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Alan Riley <arr44 at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>
> > I also have a Ford 1520, a 1987 year model, 2wd, 9x3 transmission. When I
> > changed
> > it's hydraulic oil and filter the last time, I was still able to get the
> > Ford 134 oil and the
> > filter at the local NH dealer. That has been several years back though and
> > the nearest
> > NH dealer is now 65 miles away.
> >
> > I don't recall for certain the revision number on the 134 oil I used but I
> > think it may
> > have been D. Maybe I should have stocked up on the oil when I had the
> > chance.
> >
> > Alan Riley
> > Deville, LA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Offiler
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:10 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
> >
> > I've got a 1991 Ford 1520, a Japanese-built 23HP diesel 4x4 hydrostatic
> > from approx 1991, just before Ford sold to New Holland. A few weeks ago I
> > did a 1000-hr major maintenance including hydraulic fluid change. I've got
> > the original service manual, which calls for "Ford 134" fluid. The only
> > other reference in the manual is to Ford part numbers 1GM-134C (1 gal) and
> > 5GM-134C (5 gal). Searching around the net, I concluded this stuff must be
> > Ford M2C134x fluid where the x is like a revision, starting with A which
> > apparently was used in the 8N era... hence, this really isn't all that OT
> > after all. Looks like they were up to rev C in the early 1990's based on
> > what is called out in my manual, and it also looks like the modern standard
> > is up to D now. If I got any of that wrong PLEASE jump in.
> >
> > I ended up purchasing Coastal 303 Tractor Fluid, which I was a bit leery
> > about, until the sales guy pulled out a multi-page document from behind the
> > counter that listed a wealth of detail on Coastal 303, including
> > compatibility with the Ford M2C134D spec. OK then, sold.
> >
> > The problem I am having now is that the fluid seems too viscous. As the
> > cold weather arrived, I immediately noticed that the loader lifted slowly
> > and the bucket roll was almost ridiculously slow. Not long after that, it
> > literally blew the gasket off the hydrostatic filter. My first clue was
> > copious amounts of fluid pouring from the filter area, and once I removed
> > it, I observed the gasket was out of place. I tucked it back in, tightened
> > the filter up real good, and it was OK for another couple weeks. Just
> > today, same thing, it's pouring out the filter gasket again. I am
> > concluding that the fluid is too thick, the flow is too slow, building
> > pressure on the return side (filter side), and that's what is blowing the
> > gasket.
> >
> > If I got all this right, that means Coastal 303 is NOT so very equivalent
> > to Ford M2C134D after all. Does anybody have any knowledge of these
> > fluids? What do I really need to be shopping for? (I don't know where or
> > IF I could even find genuine Ford fluid any more)
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Steve O.
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