[AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)

[Stephen Offiler]

Wow Bob I never even thought about it that way.  No kidding!

SO


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:24 AM, <rbrooks at hvc.rr.com> wrote:

> Steve
>
> Sounds like the guy made an honest mistake.
> Good thing you only blew out one gasket!!
>
> Bob
> ---- Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > THANKS for all the responses!  I believe I have figured out what
> happened:
> >
> > If you note in my story, they pulled out some documents from under the
> > counter and showed me one that indicated it was compatible with Ford
> > M2C134D.  Here it is:  (scroll down to page 2)
> >
> >
> http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20Multitrac%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf
> >
> > But that is NOT the oil they sold me.  The above is a different Coastal
> > product, called MultiTrac.  What I got was Coastal 303, which, when you
> > look at the data sheet, is obviously the wrong stuff:
> >
> >
> http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20303%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf
> >
> > I think it was an honest mistake by the counter guy.  I don't think they
> > stock the MultiTrac and he mistakenly believed he was showing me the
> > correct data sheet.
> >
> > SO
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Alan Riley <arr44 at suddenlink.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I also have a Ford 1520, a 1987 year model, 2wd, 9x3 transmission.
>  When I
> > > changed
> > > it's hydraulic oil and filter the last time, I was still able to get
> the
> > > Ford 134 oil and the
> > > filter at the local NH dealer.  That has been several years back
> though and
> > > the nearest
> > > NH dealer is now 65 miles away.
> > >
> > > I don't recall for certain the revision number on the 134 oil I used
> but I
> > > think it may
> > > have been D.  Maybe I should have stocked up on the oil when I had the
> > > chance.
> > >
> > > Alan Riley
> > > Deville, LA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Offiler
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:10 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
> > >
> > > I've got a 1991 Ford 1520, a Japanese-built 23HP diesel 4x4 hydrostatic
> > > from approx 1991, just before Ford sold to New Holland.  A few weeks
> ago I
> > > did a 1000-hr major maintenance including hydraulic fluid change.
>  I've got
> > > the original service manual, which calls for "Ford 134" fluid.  The
> only
> > > other reference in the manual is to Ford part numbers 1GM-134C (1 gal)
> and
> > > 5GM-134C (5 gal).  Searching around the net, I concluded this stuff
> must be
> > > Ford M2C134x fluid where the x is like a revision, starting with A
> which
> > > apparently was used in the 8N era... hence, this really isn't all that
> OT
> > > after all.  Looks like they were up to rev C in the early 1990's based
> on
> > > what is called out in my manual, and it also looks like the modern
> standard
> > > is up to D now.  If I got any of that wrong PLEASE jump in.
> > >
> > > I ended up purchasing Coastal 303 Tractor Fluid, which I was a bit
> leery
> > > about, until the sales guy pulled out a multi-page document from
> behind the
> > > counter that listed a wealth of detail on Coastal 303, including
> > > compatibility with the Ford M2C134D spec.  OK then, sold.
> > >
> > > The problem I am having now is that the fluid seems too viscous.  As
> the
> > > cold weather arrived, I immediately noticed that the loader lifted
> slowly
> > > and the bucket roll was almost ridiculously slow.  Not long after
> that, it
> > > literally blew the gasket off the hydrostatic filter.  My first clue
> was
> > > copious amounts of fluid pouring from the filter area, and once I
> removed
> > > it, I observed the gasket was out of place.  I tucked it back in,
> tightened
> > > the filter up real good, and it was OK for another couple weeks.  Just
> > > today, same thing, it's pouring out the filter gasket again.  I am
> > > concluding that the fluid is too thick, the flow is too slow, building
> > > pressure on the return side (filter side), and that's what is blowing
> the
> > > gasket.
> > >
> > > If I got all this right, that means Coastal 303 is NOT so very
> equivalent
> > > to Ford M2C134D after all.  Does anybody have any knowledge of these
> > > fluids?  What do I really need to be shopping for?  (I don't know
> where or
> > > IF I could even find genuine Ford fluid any more)
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > Steve O.
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