[AT] Ice storm----milo

Sat Dec 7 16:25:03 PST 2013

Cecil,  I spent half of my youth (before the days of round up obviously)
trying to get rid of a patch of johnson grass.   I'm sure it has some
use for something but I hate the stuff!  We used to roll it over with
a bottom plow right before we thought a freeze was coming and try
to kill the roots.  It doesn't freeze here all that much so it was a
constant battle.  In our loamy sand the roots of the stuff grow
half way to china.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:14 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Ice storm----milo

I have a 120 acre field of Johnson grass that I cut every year for hay.
Sudan is a hybrid from Johnson grass.  Johnson grass is hell to get rid
of, but if you keep tilling the ground at the right time, it will
finally die out.  It can be somewhat controlled with Roundup.  I know of
some old timers that wintered their cattle on Jonson grass roots.  If
Johnson grass is cut when it is less than 3 ft tall and growing, it
makes some very nutritious hay.  It is still good when cut when
growing.   When it starts shriveling is when you get the problem with
nitrate poisoning.  Contrary to a lot of folks belief, it is a really
good horse hay.  I still have about 500 bales and sold 200 b ales this
spring.

It is starting to snow here again, I just put out some oat hay for the
sheep that was 3 years old.  They attacked it like it was candy..
    We had a 4.5M earthquake here at 12:10 pm  It made my chair roll
with me in it!!

Cecil in OKla

On 12/7/2013 12:28 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Here's another johnson grass picture.  Maybe that is what it is and
> someone has figured out a use for it.  Read the name of the stuff at
> the bottom of the picture.
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=risome+johnson+grass&b=&fr=ie8
>
> The fields I'm seeing are very well tended.  Not a weed in sight (other 
> than
> this stuff)
> and all very uniform and healthy.  I guess there must be a few hundred 
> acres
> of it visible
> from the highway over a stretch of road about 20 miles long.  Most of it 
> has
> been picked now
> and what is left has the stalk and head partially laying down on top of 
> the
> bush in varying degrees
> from one field to the next.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Rugen
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:51 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ice storm----milo
>
> If it has a tight, nearly white head, it could be pearl millet.  I planted
> it a few times for foot plots, the birds REALLY like it, deer didn't pay
> much attention.  I wanted something to block the view of some road 
> hunters,
> it needed to be taller than  milo, so it did that nicely.
>
>
>
> Len Rugen
>
> rugenl at yahoo.com - May also be used when responding as
> rugenl at prairiehome.k12.mo.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 7, 2013 8:55 AM, charlie hill
> <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know John.  There are big fields of this stuff, all the same, and
> then
> down the road a ways there is regular milo.  I keep looking for someone
> to ask about it but never see anyone out around any of the fields.  I'm
> passing
> by it at 60 mph so I can't tell what sort of seed it has but it appears to
> be very small.
> I would think it would require a combine that is capable of combining 
> grass
> seeds
> to pick it.   Like milo there is a lot of plant compared to the amount of
> seed.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:48 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ice storm----milo
>
> Don't know what it could be either. Every once in a while I see a massive
> stalk that is up around 7-8 foot tall, but healthy. I have seen a few 
> plants
> of some sort that look like Johnson Grass (it's not) given the way the 
> head
> is shaped. I haven't bothered to see what the seed looks like to know if 
> it
> is deformed milo or a weed. Last year I talked with a fellow deep in an 
> area
> that has been growing milo for a long time. He mentioned a weed they get
> that resembles milo, think it was called shattercane. I wonder if that is
> what I am seeing, maybe it got mixed in with the seed, I don't know where
> our seed comes from.
>
> John Hall
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charlie hill
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 5:08 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ice storm
>
> John,  I've been passing through the upper corner of Sampson Co and
> spending some time in Johnson Co. lately and I keep seeing a crop
> that looks like anemic milo.   The plant it's self is very similar but not
> as bushy as milo and the top is more like grass.  Similar to the top of
> Johnson grass.  Do you know what that is?  The tops of this stuff
> fan out like a hand with the fingers spread compared to milo that is more
> like a closed fist.  The grain appears to be smaller seed than milo.
> Most of it has been combined now but some is still in the fields and it's
> already starting to lay down (the stems breaking over and the plant head
> laying down across the mass of bushes).
>
> I can't figure out what it is.  It's something new to this area.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 10:25 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ice storm
>
> At 8:30 tonight I was sitting in my truck with the windows rolled down
> waiting to pick up the kid, didn't even need a jacket, much less a coat.
> Temps are supposed to nose-dive in the morning to somewhere in the 40's 
> and
> then a chance of sleet or freezing rain tomorrow night. I've still got 
> some
> of my milo in the field so I don't want to see much ice!
>
> John Hall
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charlie hill
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 8:25 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ice storm
>
> I keep hoping that our Canadian friends will SHUT THE FRONT DOOR
> and stop the draft but I guess it's too late.  Looks like it might not 
> reach
> all the way over here to the east coast of NC but I suspect John Hall
> and those to the west of him will get their toes cold.
>
> Charlie
>
>
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