[AT] Waay OT
charlie hill
charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Sep 15 06:45:06 PDT 2012
I don't know any details on it. It's about 20 miles from me but not worth
the gas or waste of the owners time
to go look at it because I don't need it and really can't afford it right
now. It would make a fine utility truck for
a farm though!
Charlie
-----Original Message-----
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:46 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
That is a nice looking truck. There is a lot of extras on those old
DOT trucks.
I have a 94 model 4700 IHC single cab with a 5 yd bed. It is an old
OK DOT truck. It will run 57 mph Downhill with a 60mph tailwind!!!
It also will pull 8 1/2 yds of wet shale out of the soft pit and up a
30deg slope!!! The paint is great, but the floorboard is shot. I have
got most of that repaired. I used a horse stall mat from TSC for the
floormat. It really deadens the road noise. The engine is a little 366
6cyl diesel. They spec these with a little engine and the heaviest
trans and rear end they can find so they can push a snow blade. The
front mounted hyd pump is connected to a 5 section electric hyd valve
that is inside a 50 gallon hyd tank. This is to run the salt spreader
that sliides in the back. The hydraulics alone cost almost as much as
the truck..... I gave $4500 for the truck 2 years ago. It was really
too much, but with all the hydraulics, I can run my hydraulic bale
trailer and not have to worry about brakes. Truck has 4 wheel disc
brakes. It is just slow, not bad on fuel, just slow, and will out pull
anything I have but the LTL 9000. I also have 3 snow blades and 4 salt
spreaders for it. I was going to convert the spreader to spread chicken
manure on the fields.....
Cecil in OKla
On 9/14/2012 4:25 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Sounds like a nice one Cecil. You are right about the fuel!
> Send me some pictures of it sometime. I saw an ad today for a
> single axle dump mounted on a Crew Cab 94 IH. Looked clean as
> could be. Shiny yellow paint. It must have been a DOT truck.
> It didn't say but I'm sure it was a diesel. $7200.00. I sure did want to
> go
> look at it but I don't need it and don't have the extra cash either.
> http://eastnc.craigslist.org/grd/3208942825.html
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:55 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>
> Charlie:
> I am building a new rig for my winch truck. It is a C8500 Chevy with
> just overhauled 3126b Cat engine and Allison MT543 transmission. Single
> axle rear, but has air brakes. It was originally a county dump truck
> but after a month the bed was taken off and the mechanics bed was
> installed. The transmission has been replaced also. It is like new
> now. I am installing a 34K tulsa winch bed with 12 ft poles and both
> pintle and gooseneck hitches. I have a pair of those tall power heated
> mirrors for it. I have had them saved for about 4 years, just waiting
> for the right truck to put them on. It will probably be the nicest rig
> I ever had. Now, If I only had enough money for fuel to drive it!!!
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
> On 9/14/2012 7:45 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Cecil, the ultimate mirror would be the old style tall vertical mirrors
>> like big rigs with power adjust and a convex spot mirror attached.
>> The kids complaining that you were cheating with power mirrors reminds me
>> of
>> the class dummies in a Calculus class I took in the late
>> 70's complaining because the class wiz was using a programmable
>> calculator
>> (old TI-59 magnetic card reader) on exams. The professor
>> quickly told them they could all use a programmable calculator as long as
>> they programmed it themselves as the other kid had done.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 7:49 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>>
>> Charlie:
>> I agree with you on the mirrors to an extent. I have replaced my Ford
>> mirrors with a flat one on the right side, but now, I cannot get that
>> mirror in the right place when I am towing a trailer. It is always too
>> high or low. This one does not have the electric mirrors.
>>
>> To me, the one convenience that is the most useful is the electric
>> mirrors. They are invaluable when you are towing anything... I was
>> at a driver training day for the employees of my agency. The training
>> was for the summer kids who worked in the department that pulled boat
>> trailers to sample lakes in OK. Since my department had several
>> trailers they told me I needed training. When I got to the site, I
>> found we were supposed to bring a trailer. The other departments had
>> brought their boats & trailers. I had to make a quick trip home and
>> get one of my trailers. The only one unloaded was my8.5 x 24ft. 3
>> axle!!!! We had to practice backing, stopping, parking, maneuvering,
>> and all that stuff. An old Hwy Patrol trooper was running the show.
>> He made a comment about me being a showoff when I brought the trailer.
>> our lanes were 10 ft wide, he wanted to make it hard for the boat
>> trailers. When we went to backing, I would focus the electric mirrors
>> on the '02 F250 I pulled with... I was the old man of the group, as I
>> had about 35 years on all of them, with 40+ years of hauling... The
>> kids set up a howl that I was cheating with the electric mirrors.
>> Trooper told them "If you got it use it".. I made the best score of
>> anyone that had taken the training in the last 10 years.. I had to do
>> the backing exercise again in one of the other trucks and trailers just
>> to prove to the kids that I could do it without the electric mirrors!!!
>> They were impressed.
>>
>> I later was the one who specified the vehicles the agency used. I got a
>> lot of flack because I would order the fancier trucks because the
>> convenience package was cheaper that way. All I wanted was the electric
>> mirrors and the cargo light. To get those items on their own would
>> have cost an additional $500 over what the upgrade cost.. My
>> reasoning for buying the electric mirrors was that with different
>> drivers, how many were not so lazy they would just drive off without
>> being able to see what they were towing. It was a safety concern, and I
>> had to write a 2 page dissertation to justify it to the Central affairs
>> department.
>>
>> Just another adventure in those 30 years of state service......
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>> On 9/14/2012 6:07 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Cecil, I enjoy the conveniences and they come in handy at times but to
>>> a
>>> large degree I agree with you, particularly about
>>> the devices designed to protect me from myself. One thing that really
>>> makes
>>> me mad is the distorted passenger side mirrors.
>>> It makes it impossible to look in the mirror and tell how close you are
>>> to
>>> something if you are backing up and I don't see where it
>>> helps a bit in traffic. A small wide angle spot mirror would be ok but
>>> having the whole thing distorted creates more danger than it
>>> helps prevent. I notice that some of the Ford pickups have a two piece
>>> right side mirror, convex on the bottom and regular on the
>>> top but I can't find one of those for my GMC as a factory option or in
>>> the
>>> after market.
>>>
>>> When my old pickup was new I actually took it to a glass shop and told
>>> him
>>> to break the convex mirror out and replace it with a
>>> real mirror but for some reason I haven't done that to the 06 I have
>>> now.
>>>
>>> As far as the anti-theft device you mentioned. The mechanics in the
>>> small
>>> independent shops here defeat those things all the time
>>> for folks they know. Apparently all you have to do is clip the wires
>>> going
>>> to and from the device in the switch and connect the clipped ends
>>> together.
>>> The first time that failed on our Buick I bought new keys but next time
>>> it
>>> happens I'll disable it.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:14 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>>>
>>> How did we ever manage without all these little in-conveniences for the
>>> last 50 years.?
>>> If my vehicle has A/C that works I am happy. If it also has power
>>> steering then I am elated. Automatic trans, and I get sorta goofy with
>>> happiness. Power mirrors for towing and I am on Top Of The World!!!!
>>> Seriously, why do we need all this crap that can go wrong?
>>> My wife & I were at Silver Dollar City for the Thanksgiving
>>> lighting
>>> ceremony and when we got ready to leave, the security system in our 1997
>>> Expedition did not like the ignition key. Something about a magnetic
>>> detection coil around the ignition switch and the responder in the
>>> key. A new Key was over $100. The dealer would not disconnect the
>>> security system for liability reasons. He said if it was stolen he
>>> might be liable. I told him that in 30 deg Missouri weather on top of
>>> a mountain with a 30mph wind and 5 hours from home, I would have helped
>>> someone steal it!!!! I posted a couple of times on the internet and
>>> the answer how to disable it came from an ex con who asked to be kept
>>> anonymous.!! For a 10 yr old vehicle to worry about disabling the
>>> anti-theft system is ridiculous.!!!
>>> I have a 2000 C3500 that has a solenoid to prevent moving the gearshift
>>> without actuating the brake. This gets screwed up after 10 years and
>>> can get you stranded and so irritated that when it happened to my wife,
>>> I thought she was going to break the gearshift!! It took a while but I
>>> found the solenoid and removed it. It works perfect now... I also have
>>> 3 others in the 90's that are going to be removed......
>>> Call me old fashioned, but I like to know that when I am away from
>>> home, I don't have to worry about some unnecessary toy making me freeze
>>> or burn my tail off waiting on help to arrive.
>>>
>>> End of Rant!!!
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/13/2012 8:08 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>> Oh, I never mentioned the reason they eventually found. The car, if
>>>> locked when the trunk is opened , will re-lock itself when you shut the
>>>> trunk so that the trunk will lock. Pretty handy except apparently
>>>> there
>>>> was a bug that caused the car to relock itself every single time you
>>>> closed the trunk. Not so handy if the key was in the car. Again,
>>>> this
>>>> only happens with some time period after leaving the car. It doesn't
>>>> do
>>>> it if you have been away for a while. Took us a while to figure out
>>>> it
>>>> was the car and not us.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>
>>>>> Date: September 13, 2012 10:23:14 EDT
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the world of vehicles that try to be smarter than we are.
>>>>> My
>>>>> wive's Volkswagen, if you open the trunk within a certain period of
>>>>> time
>>>>> after stopping the engine, will lock the doors when you close the
>>>>> trunk.
>>>>> I never saw my wife use a sledgehammer but I might yet....
>>>>>
>>>>> I was never able to get the "feature" turned off, except by the
>>>>> dealership who did it for free. Next time they upgraded the car's
>>>>> firmware during a warranty recall, the "feature" was back. Love that
>>>>> car
>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you can turn it off, keep notes. The feature will reappear
>>>>> after
>>>>> service visits more involved than an oil change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Spencer
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 13, 2012, at 9:38, Ron Cook <ron at lakeport-1.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got a 2004 Chevrolet Suburban. First trip was to the Clay
>>>>>> County Fair yesterday. Well, we got home and I shut it off, took the
>>>>>> keys out of the ignition and threw them under the front seat. Got out
>>>>>> and headed for the house. While walking in front of the thing I
>>>>>> heard
>>>>>> the doors lock. Now I have this thing I cannot get into. I can
>>>>>> solve
>>>>>> that problem after awhile, but my question is: What the heck caused
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> to happen and is it normal? Also, if that is normal, how do I do
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> with that annoying feature?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron Cook
>>>>>> Salix, IA
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