[AT] Waay OT

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Fri Sep 14 04:07:09 PDT 2012


Cecil,  I enjoy the conveniences and they come in handy at times but to a 
large degree I agree with you, particularly about
the devices designed to protect me from myself.  One thing that really makes 
me mad is the distorted passenger side mirrors.
It makes it impossible to look in the mirror and tell how close you are to 
something if you are backing up and I don't see where it
helps a bit in traffic.  A small wide angle spot mirror would be ok but 
having the whole thing distorted creates more danger than it
helps prevent.  I notice that some of the Ford pickups have a two piece 
right side mirror, convex on the bottom and regular on the
top but I can't find one of those for my GMC as a factory option or in the 
after market.

When my old pickup was new I actually took it to a glass shop and told him 
to break the convex mirror out and replace it with a
real mirror but for some reason I haven't done that to the 06 I have now.

As far as the anti-theft device you mentioned.  The mechanics in the small 
independent shops here defeat those things all the time
for folks they know.  Apparently all you have to do is clip the wires going 
to and from the device in the switch and connect the clipped ends together.
The first time that failed on our Buick I bought new keys but next time it 
happens I'll disable it.

Charlie


-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:14 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT

How did we ever  manage without all these little in-conveniences for the
last 50 years.?
If my vehicle has A/C that works I am happy.  If it also has power
steering then I am elated.  Automatic trans, and I get sorta goofy with
happiness.   Power mirrors for towing and I am on Top Of The World!!!!
  Seriously, why do we need all this crap that can go wrong?
  My wife & I were at Silver Dollar City for the Thanksgiving lighting
ceremony and when we got ready to leave, the security system in our 1997
Expedition did not like the ignition key. Something about a magnetic
detection coil around the ignition switch and the responder in the
key.   A new Key was over $100. The dealer would not disconnect the
security system for liability reasons.  He said if it was stolen he
might be liable.   I told him that  in 30 deg Missouri weather on top of
a mountain with a 30mph wind and 5 hours from home, I would have helped
someone steal it!!!!   I posted a couple of times on the internet and
the answer how to disable it came from an ex con who asked to be kept
anonymous.!!  For a 10 yr old vehicle to worry about disabling the
anti-theft system is ridiculous.!!!
I have a 2000 C3500 that has a solenoid to prevent moving the gearshift
without actuating the brake.   This gets screwed up after 10 years and
can get you stranded and so irritated that when it happened to my wife,
I thought she was going to break the gearshift!!   It took a while but I
found the solenoid and removed it.  It works perfect now...  I also have
3 others in the 90's that are going to be removed......
  Call me old fashioned, but I like to know that when I am away from
home, I don't have to worry about some unnecessary toy making me freeze
or burn my tail off waiting on help to arrive.

End of Rant!!!

Cecil in OKla



On 9/13/2012 8:08 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> Oh, I never mentioned the reason they eventually found.  The car, if 
> locked when the trunk is opened , will re-lock itself when you shut the 
> trunk so that the trunk will lock.  Pretty handy except apparently there 
> was a bug that caused the car to relock itself every single time you 
> closed the trunk.   Not so handy if the key was in the car.  Again, this 
> only happens with some time period after leaving the car.  It doesn't do 
> it if you have been away for a while.    Took us a while to figure out it 
> was the car and not us.
>
> Spencer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>
>> Date: September 13, 2012 10:23:14 EDT
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>>
>> Welcome to the world of vehicles that try to be smarter than we are.   My 
>> wive's Volkswagen, if you open the trunk within a certain period of time 
>> after stopping the engine, will lock the doors when you close the trunk. 
>> I never saw my wife use a sledgehammer but I might yet....
>>
>> I was never able to get the "feature" turned off, except by the 
>> dealership who did it for free.   Next time they upgraded the car's 
>> firmware during a warranty recall, the "feature" was back.  Love that car 
>> otherwise.
>>
>> So if you can turn it off, keep notes.   The feature will reappear after 
>> service visits more involved than an oil change.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2012, at 9:38, Ron Cook <ron at lakeport-1.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just got a 2004 Chevrolet Suburban.   First trip was to the Clay
>>> County Fair yesterday.  Well, we got home and I shut it off, took the
>>> keys out of the ignition and threw them under the front seat. Got out
>>> and headed for the house.  While walking in front of the thing I heard
>>> the doors lock.  Now I have this thing I cannot get into.  I can solve
>>> that problem after awhile, but my question is: What the heck caused this
>>> to happen and is it normal?  Also, if that is normal, how do I do away
>>> with that annoying feature?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ron Cook
>>> Salix, IA
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