[AT] Waay OT

Larry Goss rlgoss at insightbb.com
Thu Sep 13 21:46:24 PDT 2012


I'm glad to see that, Gary.  My father used to tell me that things like that would grow on contacts and cause all sorts of problems. I didn't know whether to believe him or not. He died in 1987.  The concept reminds me of the musical note contacts that USED to be used in the early days of Allen organs.  They used whiskers on each note to give a slow audio ramp to the attack on each switch so you got a sound that didn't have a square-wave shape the way the Hammond organs did.  That old mechanical technique has been totally done away with in modern musical instruments -- and this source says it caused the Toyota problems.

Larry 

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Tin  Whiskers

Check out NASA report

http://nepp.nasa.gov/whisker/reference/tech_papers/2011-NASA-GSFC-whisker-failure-app-sensor.pdf

Gary

Renton, WA



 

 

 

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From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
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Thanks Larry. There were reports of Toyotas doing the same sort of thing 
(perhaps a year and a half ago) due to the way in which the floor mat was 
constructed. Toyota replaced lots of floor mats, but that apparently was not the 
problem--don't think "the problem" was ever "discovered."
	Dave

On Sep 13, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Larry Goss wrote:

> I'll do what I can, Dave.  It should be available with an on-line search.  The 
lady was headed north on an Interstate and led state troopers on a wild chase 
that lasted 58 minutes at speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour.  She was in 
contact via cell phone with a number of people during that time.  She finally 
was able to get slowed down by pulling up on the accelerator while pushing on 
the brakes simultaneously.  I'll send URL info when I find it.
> 
> Larry
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:57:30 PM
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> 
> Hi Larry, Please give me a source for this report. (a police report, newspaper 
article or at least a date and place would help.) Thanks!
> 	Dave
> PS, Also the year and make of the vehicle would be appreciated.
> 
> On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Larry Goss wrote:
> 
>> This thread brings to mind the incident that happened last month where a 
woman raced down a freeway and was unable to turn off the ignition or shift out 
of gear so she could stop.  Keyless features raise all sorts of "red flags."
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve W." <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:28:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>> 
>> Ron Cook wrote:
>>> I just got a 2004 Chevrolet Suburban.   First trip was to the Clay 
>>> County Fair yesterday.  Well, we got home and I shut it off, took the 
>>> keys out of the ignition and threw them under the front seat. Got out 
>>> and headed for the house.  While walking in front of the thing I heard 
>>> the doors lock.  Now I have this thing I cannot get into.  I can solve 
>>> that problem after awhile, but my question is: What the heck caused this 
>>> to happen and is it normal?  Also, if that is normal, how do I do away 
>>> with that annoying feature?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ron Cook
>>> Salix, IA
>> 
>> The usual cause is a bad remote for the keyless entry OR another 
>> transmitter causing a problem. I have seen problems with the relays that 
>> control the locks do this as well.
>> 
>> It is not a normal feature on an 04.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Steve W.
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