[AT] OT Daikon or Tillage Radish

Sun Sep 2 16:08:07 PDT 2012

Oh yeah it's a good deal for you no doubt.  I just wanted to share my 
experience with it.
A lot has changed since then.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 4:06 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT Daikon or Tillage Radish

Charlie:
At the price of commercial fertilizer, it would cost $400 to put down an
equivalent amount of NPK as one ton of Chicken Litter for about $75
now.  The litter costs us $20 a ton, the rest is freight.  I put it on
the wheat field and pasture in 2009 & 2010.  My wheat field made 4 bales
of wheat to the acre both years.  Before, 2 was the average.  Pasture
was the same.  If it was not for the litter, the pasture would have
dried up.   The litter caused the roots to go down.   You have to spray
it, because the feed companies buy all of the cleanings from the
elevator to make feed out of.
Cecil in oKla

On 9/2/2012 2:09 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Cecil part of our farm is a sand hill.  Back when I was a kid a guy in 
> town
> was in the chicken business and he offered to haul the chicken manure he 
> had
> to dispose of to our sand hill.  He and
> my dad figured it would help the land.  Well when they hauled it they 
> didn't
> spread it as my dad thought they would.  Instead they dumped it in dump
> truck load size piles scattered all over.
> We had no way to spread it so it sat there in mounds for years as we 
> slowly
> tried to work it down.  The only thing it helped grow was common bermuda
> grass which spread like wild fire
> and our little tractor couldn't manage it.  Back then there was nothing 
> (we
> knew of) to spray it with.  That stuff nearly ruined that part of the 
> farm.
>
> Finally after my dad had died I started leasing the place to farmers with
> bigger tractors and they were able to at least get it knocked down flat 
> and
> get the grass spread around some.  The only
> thing that ever got the farm cleaned up was when, in the early 80's and
> after 25 years,  I leased the place to a cotton farmer.  If you ever want
> weeds and grass cleaned up on your farm put it in
> cotton!  That boy got killed in a wreck and only farmed the place about 4
> years but by the time he was gone (literally) there wasn't a weed or blade
> of grass of any kind in any field on the place.
> I hope you get along better with chicken litter than we did.  Of course 
> for
> pasture it's fine because it just adds more grass!
>
> Thanks for mentioning those radishes.  I have the info bookmarked in my
> computer and logged in my brain.  It might come in handy some day.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 1:35 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT Daikon or Tillage Radish
>
> Yes that is the radish.   It is a Daikon I found after some research.
> Thanks...    I found some in 50lb bags at a seed company about 25 miles
> away.   Of course they were sold out and I have to wait a couple of
> weeks to get it.  I will just mix it in with the wheat seed in the
> drill.   It is about time to sow wheat here, if we want any winter
> pasture.  I wanted to sow this to break up the ground without having to
> run the deep subsoiler.  No-till is great, but you have to break up the
> ground every 5 years or so if you pasture it.  The soil gets packed.
> This radish is supposed to break up the ground with the roots, and then
> when it decomposes from the frost it produces some organic matter it
> also brings nutrients from below to the surface, however, there are not
> a lot of nutrients down below in that sterile ground!!!   Just some of
> the hype I guess!  The seed costs $130 for a 50lb bag, and they
> recommend about 8 to 12 lbs per acre.  That is $20 to $30/acre.  I am
> going to try to use about 4lbs and see what happens.  It will provide
> some forage for the sheep and with the ground we have, anything will
> help.  I spread chicken litter at the rate of 1 ton per acre for 2 years
> in a row.  It was about $65 per acre for that...   The only way to break
> even is to pasture and get the gain on cattle.
>
> Thanks to everyone for your input..
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
>
>
> On 9/1/2012 8:25 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> Is this the seed that you are looking for Cecil? See:
>> http://www.hancockseed.com/application-area-239/wildlife-food-plot-seed-297/food-plot-greens-brassicas-299/daikon-radish-seed-5-lb-bag-487.html
>> Dave
>> PS, See also:
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=japanees+raddish&sugexp=chrome,mod=8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=japanees+raddish+seeds&oq=japanees+raddish+seeds&gs_l=serp.3...4863.6561.0.7038.6.6.0.0.0.0.148.773.0j6.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.CjpaRN10xCA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=8fd5d4d51e4d6935&biw=1381&bih=841
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Ivan wrote:
>>
>>> I always knew it as japanese radish ,they do get really big .A couple
>>> foot long . A family friend was Japanese ,  she would always grate them
>>> and serve in soy sauce . Hopefully next vacation will be to visit her
>>> and get some real oriental food !
>>>    I have seen them in seed catalogs before for gardening ,buy not in
>>> large quanity . Ivan
>>>     On 9/1/2012 10:37 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>> Anyone heard of this radish or where I can buy seed in quantity at a
>>>> reasonable price?.   In Oklahoma, it is foreign...    This vegetable 
>>>> has
>>>> a tap root that can go below the plow pan in the soil and prevent me
>>>> from wearing out my antique tractors to plow the ground up.  It also
>>>> brings nutrients from below to the surface when it decomposes. 
>>>> Really
>>>> too good to be true, but if I don't try it , I will never know.   I 
>>>> have
>>>> resolved to try the new stuff that I could never get my Dad to try out.
>>>>
>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>
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