[AT] My Stupid JD A again

Sat Oct 6 20:31:42 PDT 2012

I gotta second what Charlie is saying. A tricycle tractor going 
backwards downhill with a trailer is an accident waiting to happen..  It 
is hard enough to do it under power.  Sometimes there is just not enough 
money to put some of these old tractors into usable shape.  I have many 
of these projects that I intended to work on years ago.  If the good old 
EPA had not outlawed and over taxed asbestos, I could afford to buy a 
gasket set for these old engines and get some use out of them.   The 
gasket set for some of my toys is $400.  Just a head gasket for an old 2 
yard Allis loader is over $250, so it is probably headed for the scrap 
yard.  If you can find a running tractor that is dependable, then swap 
the tires and other parts needed from your old one to the good one and 
keep the rest for parts.  You have mentioned this tractor to be your 
grandfather's. I can assure you that your grandfather would have done 
the same thing. He would have scrapped the old tractor for parts for the 
good one if it meant saving money or time..  Those old timers had to be 
frugal to stay alive...    Those times are here again...

It sounds to me that you need a reliable tractor if you get away from 
home.  I am the same way, I cannot walk back home due to a long term 
injury to my ankle.   It restricts my climbing on and off my toys and 
working on them like I used to.      Use whatever parts you need to get 
a good tractor running, you will be far ahead of the game.

Good luck and keep us informed

Cecil in OKla

On 10/6/2012 3:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Tyler,  I think your sighted friend has a reason to freak out.  I admire
> what you do given your
> limitations but I fear you don't see the danger you are in some times.
> Having a tractor pulling
> a wagon stall out going up a hill is a recipe for disaster in more ways than
> one.  If it ever starts
> to roll backwards down the hill you are in big trouble.
>
> I think your Dad may be right.  Your machine seems to need a lot of
> attention and that takes time, skill and money.
> Keep at it.  You'll figure it out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tyler Juranek
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:44 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] My Stupid JD A again
>
> Hi Charly,
> I've had multiple mechanics tell me that the manifold needs remachined
> with a new gasket put on it.
> My father bought another A and he says that "That's the one that'll
> run!" He also said that we could put his A and my A drawbar to drawbar
> and mine will quit in an instant.
> My neighbor has a two bottom pull type plow in his shed, maybe I'll
> have to go over and see if I can borrow it so I can work the damn
> thing.
> Problem of it is we have calvs in our field on stocks right now, so
> there is nothing to plow.
> Perhaps I need to find a 4 inch augger someware and put it on and run
> it for a day or two.
> There is also a neighborhood about 2 miles away that has one hell of a big
> hill.
> When I pulled a hayrack full of people up it, the damn thing decided
> it needed a nap, so I bet you can guess what happened!
> Of course that was in road gear, and I suppose if I would've put it in
> first gear, maybe I would've made it.
> Maybe it wouldn't hurt to go ahead and take it up that hill a few
> times a day in road gear.
> Problem is, the sighted person that tells me what way to turn freeks
> out if it quits.
> Is that a good idea?
> Take Care,
> Tyler J
>
> On 10/6/12, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> Tyler running it in road gear won't really work it hard unless you are
>> running up hill so that it makes the
>> engine pull down against the governor and really sweat.  I'm not very
>> familiar with JD engines so I can't
>> tell you specifics.   It really needs a few hours of field work like
>> pulling
>>
>> a bottom plow.  Something with a
>> consistent, hard load that makes it really work.  Of course, given it's
>> age,
>>
>> that hard work is likely to
>> find some other problems that might be expensive to fix.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tyler Juranek
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:53 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] My Stupid JD A again
>>
>> Hi Charly,
>> I drive this JD A down the road at full throttle in 4th gear about every
>> night.
>> What other things can I do with it to work it?
>> It doesn't pull a hayrack verry well.
>> Take Care,
>> Tyler J
>>
>> On 10/5/12, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> John is exactly correct on that.  These old tractors were built to work
>>> and
>>>
>>> work HARD and any of
>>> them will load up and carbon up when all they do is put around like a
>>> parade
>>>
>>> piece.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:37 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] My Stupid JD A again
>>>
>>> The uneven sound may indicate a stuck valve. Even if it is, that doesn't
>>> explain both plugs being fouled. I remember a thread about a Deere
>>> manifold,
>>> but not the details. Assuming the manifold has nothing to do with this,
>>> is
>>> your carb running too rich or air filter plugged up? Is the mag hot
>>> enough?
>>> I went to get a friends Deere running one time and he had automotive
>>> style
>>> wires on it, something I've never been a fan of on old tractors. Make
>>> sure
>>> your wires are in good shape along with your distributor cap and spark
>>> plugs. If you want to test the magneto, see if you can jump a 1/4"
>>> spark--if
>>> not, the mag is not hot enough. As for cleaning the soot out of the
>>> inside
>>> of the engine, get it running on two cylinders and then put it under a
>>> load
>>> for quite a while. You would be surprised how much carbon would be blown
>>> out
>>> of the engine after 10-15 minutes of field work.
>>>
>>> John Hall
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tyler Juranek
>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:35 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: [AT] My Stupid JD A again
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I hate to keep bugging this list, but my JD A is acting up again.
>>> First, I haven't had time to work on the manifold, we don't have the
>>> tools to do it.
>>> However, how do I know if it is runnin on 1 cylinder?
>>> Last time, I took the plugs out, and I mean, these suckers were coded
>>> with soot. If you saw it, you'd think you were playin a scratch
>>> tickit.
>>> I cleaned them with a wire brush.
>>> Then, I took one of those fat paint brushes with long bristles and
>>> stuck it into the plug holes. Each time, I pulled out a boatload of
>>> soot!
>>> After that, I put the plugs back in, covers and bars on, gave er a
>>> wirl and she run on both cylinders!
>>> So the other night, I backed it into the shed, and it sounded like it
>>> was runnin on 1 again.
>>> So, I did the same procedure, accept I didn't clean the holes because
>>> I lost my brush somehow.
>>> So I put it back together and started it, but it still sounds like it
>>> is runnin on 1.
>>> When I open the petcock on the belt pulley side, it makes a Phh, Phh, Phh
>>> sound.
>>> On the other side by the flywheel, that petcock makes a phh
>>> phhphhphhphhphhphhphhphhphhphhphh sound constantly.
>>> Shouldn't they be even if it is runnin on both cylinders?
>>> Any other suggestions to try besides cleaning the plugs and plug holes?
>>> Is there a way to get the plug holes totally cleaned out, so that all
>>> soot is gone?
>>> Thank you,
>>> Tyler J
>>>
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