[AT] Electrical/Generator Issues

[drupert at seanet.com]

Ben,

I've been on a "total vacation" for the past two weeks and just read your'
post below this morning.  I will respond this evening with the
instructions -

Dudley


> Hello gentlemen,
>
> Thank you for your patience with me during the past week or so.  My
> Grandpa's death was a shock; none of us were expecting it at the time.
> Now
> I am needing to get back to getting this Farmall going since it is sitting
> unable to start where we need to pour concrete!
>
> Ted, you mentioned that the incorrect wiring could have caused damage.
> What type of damage in particular are you thinking is probable?  The motor
> test I performed was just like you said; the results said the generator is
> dead.
>
> Ted, polarizing the generator is not a basic question.  I didn't even know
> such a thing existed until a few years ago, and it was the primary issue
> on
> the charging problems with my Super A.  That was the first thing I
> checked.
>
> Dudley, you are correct; my generator has 2 studs.  Furthermore, I
> neglected to explain that my regulator in fact has 4 terminals.  I
> mentioned only the three lining the front, "L", "Bat" and "Arm".  The one
> on the back seems to need to be wired to the "F" (field) generator
> terminal.  I would really appreciate hearing the instructions you
> mentioned!
>
> Thanks to you all for your help,
> Ben Wagner
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:10 PM, <drupert at seanet.com> wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> Could you tell us a bit more specifics about the Generator & Regulator
>> that's currently in your' tractor and maybe we could help you (never
>> mind
>> for the moment the wiring).
>>
>> For example, does the Generator have two terminals?  If so, is one
>> labeled
>> "F" or "Field" and is the other the "A" or "Generator" terminal.  And
>> are
>> you sure the Regulator only has three terminals and not four?  There
>> could
>> be one terminal on the bottom or underneath the Regulator making it hard
>> to see.  If your' Generator has the two terminals described above and
>> the
>> Regulator four, then it should be easy to check out and we can pass
>> those
>> instructions along -
>>
>> Dudley
>>
>>
>> > Good afternoon,
>> >
>> > I have had a few issues with my 1945 A's electrical system recently,
>> and
>> > wanted to bounce a few ideas off the folks on the list.  I will warn
>> you
>> > that this email is long and complicated!
>> >
>> > The generator was new in the early 90's, according to the previous
>> owner.
>> > It was equipped with a regulator (3 connections) which seems to be
>> > inappropriate for the tractor.  The generator did not work at all, and
>> I
>> > found that it was wired incorrectly. Someone had stacked the "bat"
>> wire
>> > onto the far right "arm" wire on the "arm" bracket of the regulator.
>> The
>> > load hook up (lights) was on the "bat" terminal.  Would this have
>> injured
>> > the generator since it has been run this way probably for years?
>> >
>> > After rewiring it, I found that the generator still gives no charge.
>> I
>> > measure no voltage from the generator, and the "motor test" also did
>> not
>> > give any positive answers.  I believe the regulator is good, but the
>> > generator itself is not.  I am going to disassemble the generator and
>> see
>> > if I can find a problem.  What are the places I should look beyond
>> loose
>> > connections, grounded field, and worn brushes?
>> >
>> > For reference, what the previous owner did was replace the old
>> generator
>> > with a new one.  He rewired it, and replaced the original relay (1
>> line
>> > going to the ammeter) with a regulator (2 wires going to the light
>> switch
>> > and ammeter).  From the original A electrical parts, only the light
>> switch
>> > (4 position) and ammeter remains.  The wiring was updated to match the
>> > regulator demands (2 wires) leaving the light switch to hook up
>> strangely.
>> >
>> > Now, I am leaning towards replacing the regulator with a relay to
>> regain
>> > originality and to simplify the wiring, but the budget is tight.  If I
>> can
>> > fix the generator, that would be great, but keeping the current
>> generator
>> > and regulator would also create the need to really solve this wiring
>> mess
>> > for certain.  If anyone has any experience in wiring a regulator to an
>> A
>> 4
>> > position light switch made for a relay, I would like to hear from you!
>> >
>> > I hope this email made sense.  If you need me to clarify, let me know.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for all your help.  My brain seems to not be wired
>> for
>> > complicated electrical problems!
>> >
>> > Ben Wagner
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