[AT] OT- hour meter

[charlie hill]

Larry what I thought you said was that the tach, hour meter and battery were 
all in one unit that had to be replaced as a unit.  That is what I was 
calling a proprietary unit.
It's not worth worrying about.  We agree that homemade solutions are 
sometimes better than expensive factory parts and that was my point. 
Sometimes I read e-mail too
quickly and miss or miss-read things.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Goss
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 5:42 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT- hour meter

I think you misunderstood, Charlie.  As far as I could tell, there was 
nothing proprietary about this unit.  I think it was just a Tiny-Tach 
without the printed nameplate on the front.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 3:33:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT- hour meter

Oh sure Larry.  All rental places that I know of have and use hour meters.
That's given.  I was just talking about the proprietary meter, tach, battery
all built together.  I have friends that own a big
rental business.  They'd tear that off as soon as it failed and replace it
with a meter off the shelf.  That's what I was talking about.  My objection
was to the manufacturer putting a proprietary battery, meter and tach all in
one on it.  That is just something to make you go back to them for parts at
exorbitant prices.   Or did I misunderstand what you were saying?

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Goss
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:58 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT- hour meter

Uhh, not really.  They replace them.  It IS a rental place, and they have to
keep a log for knowing how it's being used, etc.  When I was working for a
dealership, we learned to pay close attention to the meter reading on items
that came into the shop for work, and it always caused some uncertainty when
there was no meter or if it was broken.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 2:14:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT- hour meter

That's what I would have done and probably what a rental place would do.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Goss
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:43 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT- hour meter

Well, since I own the stump grinder, I took all the items off it that made
it look like a rental unit.  So it has no instruction manual case, no
tach-hour meter, etc.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:26:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT- hour meter

Larry or you could do as I suspect I would have, throw away the Veermeer rip
off battery unit and re-wire the thing with my own battery, hour meter and
tach.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Goss
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:42 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT- hour meter

FWIW, I have several hour-meter's on small engines, Mike.  One I have on a
PK has been mounted to the instrument panel for 7 or 8 years, and still
gives the rpm's and elapsed hours.  It's one of those $30 jobs that is sold
through small engine repair shops, etc.  I had one on a Vermeer stump
grinder that I bought at Home Depot when they were upgrading their rental
units.  The battery went dead on it, so I contacted the Vermeer dealer to
get a new battery (and for instructions for how to get the unit open).
Answer -- the whole unit is designed as a throw-away.  When the battery goes
dead, you buy a new tach/hour-meter.  If you go that route (El Cheapo model)
be aware that there are two models available depending on whether your
ignition is timed with a cam/magneto that only fires on the compression
stroke, or if the plug fires on every crank revolution.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike M" <meulenms at gmx.com>
To: "at" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:27:40 PM
Subject: [AT] OT- hour meter

Hi all,
I bought a new wood splitter the other day and would like to install a
simple hour meter on it for maintenance tracking. I see some digital ones,
but thats really fancier than I need and I question their durability. Any
suggestions?
Thanks,
Mike M
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