[AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump

Tue Jun 5 06:53:12 PDT 2012

Hi everyone,
Are these the pumps that you ran with a hit and miss engine or a belt
pulley from a tractor?
Just curious.
Regards,
Tyler

On 6/5/12, Bo Hinch <bohinch at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Charlie , I have a # 35 Goulds pump that I would probably part with . It
> is complete less the motor . What do you have for trade ???
>
> Bo Hinch in S/W Louisiana
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:57 AM, charlie hill
> <charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That's right Richard,  It will pump in either rotation but will not
>> properly
>> oil it's self in the wrong direction. That is what is wrong with the one
>> I
>> have.
>> Someone ran it (not me) in the wrong direction.  I bought this one for
>> parts
>> years ago in case I needed it to repair the one over at our farm.  My mom
>> had a problem with our old pump and without consulting me had a plumber
>> replace the old pump and haul it off.  By the time I found out about it
>> the
>> pump was long gone.  Jump forward a decade or two.  I realized the old
>> parts
>> pump was still at the farm and decided to try and repair/restore it.
>> The connecting rod is missing and the offset journal that the rod rides
>> on
>> is worn down.  It can be fixed but I need a rod or need enough
>> information
>> about it to fabricate my own.  I think if I get real lucky I can cut down
>> a
>> rod from an engine to fit.   I'd love to see a picture of the connecting
>> rod
>> and have some measurements from it but I'm going to stop short of asking
>> you
>> to pull your pump apart to get it.  Hopefully the museum in NY can help
>> me
>> or I'll eventually find another pump.
>>
>> It's a little more than just a restoration project for me.  I feel the
>> need
>> to have a pump that will work when I don't have electricity such as after
>> a
>> hurricane or
>> ice storm.  That old Goulds can be belted up to a gasoline motor or
>> whatever.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Strobel
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:17 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
>>
>> Ok, great Charlie.  I somewhat remember redoing mine several years ago.
>> If
>> I remember correctly it does have a direction of rotation which off hand
>> doesn't make much sense on a piston pump until I noticed an oil flinger
>> attached to the rod cap.  I believe this would throw the lube up into the
>> stuffing box aka packing gland.
>>
>>   The crank (eccentric) of course doesn't have modern day seals but it
>> has
>> a unique feature in that all the seepage goes back into the crankcase via
>> some sort of scupper.
>>
>> Like youtube showed...it's a pumping little bugger and I've shot water
>> probably over 35 feet with a make shift nozzle.
>>
>>  So please refresh my memory.  Did you say you needed the rod or ??
>>
>> Regards,
>> RickinMt.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> >
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
>>
>>
>> > Yep that's the critter.
>> >
>> > Charlie
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Richard Strobel
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 7:17 AM
>> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group ; Rick Strobel
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
>> >
>> > Is this it, Charlie ?
>> >
>> >
>> http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/17187/2477509720039077051S600x600Q85.jpg
>> >
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>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:17 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
>> >
>> >
>> > > Thanks Roy.  I've already tried those numbers.  If anyone there was
>> half
>> > > as
>> > > interested in helping me as you are
>> > > I'd already have the pump fixed.  The lady wouldn't even let me
>> > > finish
>> > > my
>> > > sentence before she instructed me that
>> > > I needed to talk to a different company and gave me a number which no
>> > > one
>> > > ever answers.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Roy Morgan
>> > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:36 PM
>> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Jun 4, 2012, at 7:49 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I need some help with this.  I have a Goulds model CID 35, 1940's
>> > > > or
>> > > > 50's
>> > > > vintage piston type well pump that I want to restore.
>> > >
>> > > Goulds Pumps web site
>> > > http://www.gouldspumps.com
>> > > shows no antique pump service literature, but you can fill in a
>> > > question form at:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.gouldspumps.com/contact.html
>> > >
>> > > Or here is their phone number - just call them up!
>> > >
>> > > Contact Us
>> > > Mail and Phone
>> > > Contact Information:
>> > > ITT - Goulds Pumps Headquarters
>> > > 240 Fall St.
>> > > Seneca Falls, New York 13148
>> > >
>> > > Telephone:
>> > > (315) 568-2811
>> > > FAX:
>> > > (315) 568-2418
>> > >
>> > > And incidentally, the fellow who now runs our local park is a retired
>> > > tool maker.  If you really do need some machine work, he might be
>> > > able
>> > > to help you out.
>> > >
>> > > Roy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Roy Morgan
>> > > k1lky at earthlink.net
>> > > K1LKY Since 1958 - Keep 'em Glowing!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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