[AT] WAS Texas now question on manufacturer of NH 617

Wed Jul 18 05:49:38 PDT 2012

This has gotten way off topic from Texas list members, so I changed the 
subject line....

I have a NH 617 disc mower.   It is on a caddy so it is easier to hitch 
to....    I really like it but the main gearbox module has stripped out 
again.    I was wondering if anyone on the list knows anything about the 
617 NewHolland as to where it was made, like was it a Kuhn, or what.  I 
am sure it is European.   Maybe Mattias would have an idea?  I used a 
Hesston  mower on another place for a neighbor and we never had to 
replace a box.   My NH has only 400 acres use on the last box.    It is 
the gearbox between the main drive box and the mower discs.
I think it needs a good trading..  I was just wondering if it was a 
design flaw....

Cecil in OKla

On 7/18/2012 6:11 AM, Richard Fink wrote:
> AMEN  Cecil.
> R Fink
> PA
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cecil R Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Texas
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>
>> Charlie
>> I didn't take it as an insult.    Perhaps if someone was in France or
>> Spain, we could get some parts for those late model John Deere's!!!
>>   I like the Belarus because it is reliable.  It could use some creature
>> comforts, but since the A/C is not working, I just open the windows and
>> tie the doors open, and use it.
>>
>>    I would absolutely bake in my TS110 New holland without the air
>> conditioning working.   In fact,  after a thorough of the A/C evaporator
>> in the New Holland, the air works much better, and it uses about 10
>> gallons of fuel less per day...   I think the evaporator pressure
>> remained high due to the air blockage, and the compressor was pumping on
>> higher head.   The compressor also cycles when it is below 100 deg...
>>
>> When I think of all the expense we went to with the worn out American
>> tractors we had..  Making do with an after market cab that never had a
>> rear window, and   Freezing in the winter while feeding cattle. ...
>> We could have bought a Belarus in the 90's with a cab and air for less
>> than half price of a JD or IH or even a Ford without a cab.   But
>> instead we listened to the propaganda from the US manufacturers about
>> the Russian tractors having bearings that were not round, and shafts
>> that would not seal, etc. etc.    All the time JD, IH, and Ford were
>> making everything offshore, and hiding the fact from the public.   I
>> remember the hype about us needing to convert to the metric system so we
>> could send our products overseas.   It was just hype put out by the high
>> paid executives in order to send everything offshore so they could get
>> paid a thousand times more than they were worth.
>>
>> Sorry, about the rant, I just hate thinking how we were tricked into
>> believing so much crap about the foreign tractors and equipment  when we
>> were being sent that same equipment just re-badged as American.....
>> Then to prevent Belarus from competing in the US, they changed the
>> emissions rules so we had to buy the US badged stuff that used more fuel
>> under the guise of being emission compliant.     After WWII Eisenhower
>> said the worst problem the US had to face was the Military-Industrial
>> complex. It took longer than he predicted, but it has happened.  The
>> Military industrial complex is so big it can buy and sell politicians to
>> get anything it wants...  All the while te little guy is paying for it....
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
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>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2012 3:59 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> LOL ok but I figured you'd have some spares or something you wanted.
>>> grins.
>>> I wasn't trying to insult your tractor but I guess it might have sounded
>>> that way.
>>> I just knew you liked Belarus and would be interested in the plant and
>>> the
>>> possibility
>>> of putting your hands on some parts that might be hard to find here.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:27 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Texas
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what parts I would need, the only thing that does not work
>>> is the air conditioning that was installed in the US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/17/2012 12:27 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>> Dennis if Cecil Bearden had known you were going to the Belarus plant he
>>>> would probably have wanted you to ship a few parts home...
>>>> RIGHT Cecil?   I bet that was an interesting trip.  Don't they still
>>>> pretty
>>>> much build stuff with casting and tooling technology like we used here
>>>> in
>>>> the 50's?
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dennis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:58 PM
>>>> To: AT at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Subject: [AT] Texas
>>>>
>>>> I tried to post a few days ago, but the post failed
>>>>
>>>> I live in Rosenberg (SW Houston) Texas, and have a few project tractors
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Spent last week in Minsk, home of the Belarus tractors, and traveling in
>>>> Russia this week.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Johnson
>>>>
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