[AJD] Antique-johndeere Digest, Vol 82, Issue 4

Mon Jan 9 14:29:13 PST 2012

I believe that the issue of lead and engine valves is a myth. Amoco ( now 
part of BP) premium gasoline ALWAYS has been unleaded. I easily recall the 
introduction of the Oldsmobile and Cadillac overhead valve V-8 engines in 
1949. The largest and most powerful previous engine for Oldsmobile was 
straight-8 used from 1937 to 1948 inclusive. Not considered high performance 
nor high compression. The V-8 was, relatively speaking, a powerhouse. Owners 
seeking the best from the engine often used Amoco Premium- unleaded. Amoco 
even often pictured the Oldsmobile in their ads. I knew some owners who used 
the Amoco Premium exclusively. I never ever heard of valve problems 
resulting and some of those cars were driven very hard.

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From: "E. Thatcher" <ethatche at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [AJD] Antique-johndeere Digest, Vol 82, Issue 4

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> I guess it depends on how much you are set on owning something green and 
> yellow and what size will fit your needs.  LP and Diesel wil get around 
> the problems associated with extended use of no-lead gas in older engines 
> although fuel additives or an overhaul to modify the valve train for 
> unleaded gas can work.  Allis D-17 and XT series are versitile, economical 
> to operate and in the case of the D-17, easy to work on.  Diesels are 
> available although not common with the D-17.  Oliver 1600 through 1800 
> series and newer, Minneapolis Moline M5 and newer series, Case 730 and 
> 830,  IHC 706 and 806, and Massey Ferguson 85, super 90 and 165 and 185 
> all will handle at least 4 bottom mounted plows and most will have three 
> point hitch.  We switched after years of two cylinder Deeres to an MF 85 
> back when my Dad an I were farming together in the mid 60's through the 
> eighties and never regretted the move.  The MF 85 had the Ferguson System 
> hydraulics and three point hitch and pulled a 5-14!
>  fully mounted plow like a top.  Even though it was a gas model, it was 
> very economical to operated and easy to maintain, just right for small to 
> medium sized farm.   Good luck with your search. Eric ThatcherSt. Charles, 
> MO
> > From: antique-johndeere-request at lists.antique-tractor.com
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>> Thanks for the insight Eric,
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>> As I have gotten no responses, I don't have to make any choices yet.  I 
>> have been looking for the right tractor for a few years now off and on, 
>> and have yet to actually find one that I can afford, or is in good 
>> condition.  Thanks again, Troy
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: "E. Thatcher" <ethatche at hotmail.com>
>> >Sent: Jan 4, 2012 5:19 PM
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>> >Subject: Re: [AJD] Antique-johndeere Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1; Ad Posting
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>> >It's been awhile since I posted on the site but I still read the 
>> >postings from time-to-time.  Regarding moving to purchase a diesel JD; a 
>> >720 or 730 in good condition with factory three point hitch and with the 
>> >remote hydraulic cylinder included would be a great choice if you intend 
>> >to stay with the cylinder models.  I would prefer the electric start to 
>> >the pony start models but that might narrow your choices too much. 
>> >Although I'm a life-long two-cylinder fan and have farmed with four of 
>> >them over the years since I was a kid (a "B", two "A's" and a "G"), I 
>> >would urge you to consider a 3020D or 4020D or newer model of similar 
>> >size range if you're going to depend on it for real work over time.  The 
>> >3020D will deliver the better economy of the two and will still pull 
>> >3-16's or 4-14's anywhere you want and has a more versitile transmission 
>> >and hydraulics than the two cylinder models' replacements, the the "10" 
>> >series and their successor the "20" series.
>> > Eric ThatcherSt. Charles, MO
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