[AT] OT, Reverse Camera

Sun Jan 1 02:44:31 PST 2012

you can try www.alldatadiy.com they have wiring diagrams on most every 
vehicle since 1970.  If you have to purchase a subscription it is not 
that much for the information that is available.
Cecil in OKla

On 12/31/2011 10:24 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> Charlie, both cars have the towing package, so I will start there.
>
> This is a different sort of setup. Rather than having a small GPS-like
> screen that sticks to the windshield with a suction cup, the display is
> actually embedded in a large mirror that fits snugly over the existing
> mirror.  When the camera is not activated, the screen is "almost" as
> reflective as a mirror. When the camera kicks in, it's a 4x7 inch display.
> The actual assembly is just over 10 inches wide, just about the same as the
> original mirror.
>
> It was priced about the same as the 3.5" suction cup display units,<  $80.
>
> If anyone is interested, I'll re-post and let you know how it works.
>
> Thanks again for the advice.
>
> Dick
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:37 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT, Reverse Camera
>
>> Dick I realized after I wrote that you mentioned it being a Nav' in the
>> first post.  I guess the wiring on them is similar to the Expeditions but
>> I
>> don't know a thing about them other than it should have a towing harness
>> connector in the back somewhere as someone else mentioned.   I know what
>> you
>> mean about getting under a dash.  My spine is still in fairly good shape
>> but
>> until they make zoom lens glasses I can't do a thing under the dash and if
>> I
>> tried I'd have to pull the front seat first.   If you can find a kid about
>> 23 years old that works in a car audio place he can put it in before you
>> can
>> spell cat.
>> The problem is finding one you trust.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dick Day
>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:06 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT, Reverse Camera
>>
>> Hey guys, I really appreciate the help!
>>
>> This is going in my wife's 2003 Lincoln Navigator.  Once that is done,
>> I'll
>> do our 2007 Navigator.
>>
>> Again, anything I can do to shorten my time under the dash would be
>> appreciated.  I enjoy doing this sort of thing but arthritis in the spine
>> has taken its toll :)
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:02 PM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT, Reverse Camera
>>
>>> Dick,  what brand, model and year car/truck are you putting it on.  That
>>> might help.  Someone might know the specifics.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alan Nadeau
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:59 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT, Reverse Camera
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> You're overlooking something.  The reverse lights are at the back of the
>>> car
>>> but they have to get switched somewhere that is convenient.  At one time
>>> the
>>> RL switch was on the transmission.  Now it is probably somewhere on the
>>> steering column under the dash.  I your new rig, since it is most likely
>>> all
>>> electronic(no mechanical shift linkage) it could be anywhere or even a
>>> sub-circuit off whatever triggers reverse in the transmission.  At any
>>> rate
>>> there is a wire in there somewhere that either feeds the RL on the
>>> vehicle
>>> or triggers a relay which feeds the RL.  It is also possible that the RL
>>> are
>>> switched on the ground side which would require a relay that would switch
>>> the camera on when it (the relay) was grounded.  Not hard to do either
>>> way
>>> but the first step is to visit your dealer and ask to look over a wiring
>>> schematic.  If you can get your hands on a service manual for a few
>>> minutes
>>> you can find out which side of the circuit is getting switched as well as
>>> both the circuit number (will be imprinted on the wire every few inches
>>> or
>>> at the connections at the least), the color code of the wires involved
>>> and
>>> a
>>> "component locator"  which will tell you where to look for things.  It is
>>> also possible, and very easy to rig one manual switch which will allow
>>> the
>>> camera to be triggered manually, automatically, or left off at all times.
>>>
>>> Here's a link to a wiring diagram for the switching.
>>> http://www.snowplowing-contractors.com/alan_reverse_lights.html
>>>
>>> If the system is switched on the hot side follow the left hand drawing
>>> with
>>> the camera wired on the wire(blue) marked "new lights".  The camera
>>> shouldn't draw much power so that drawing should work.  If the camera
>>> doesn't have it's own supply connection, and does draw all it's power off
>>> the trigger lead it might be best to wire it using the right hand drawing
>>> where the only current added to the RL circuit is the tiny amount used to
>>> trigger the relay.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dick Day"<ddss at telebeep.com>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:06 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's what I may end up doing.   The reverse lights wire will provide
>>>> the
>>>> easiest place to find what I need, but they are at the back of the car
>>>> and
>>>> the connection that ties to it is from the display which is at the dash.
>>>>
>>>> It's a shame cars don't have a punch-down block (used in phone/network
>>>> wiring).  It appears that everything is done with individual harnesses.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I will run another line next to the shielded video cable from
>>>> the
>>>> back of the car to the front.  I'll make sure it's got an in-line fuse
>>>> that's easy to get to.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all of the help.
>>>>
>>>> Dick
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>>
>>>>> Ok I understand now.   How much power does the camera draw?  You may
>>>>> well
>>>>> be
>>>>> able to simply tap the hot wire to one of the back up lights.   I think
>>>>> if
>>>>> it was me that's what I'd try.  The worst that can happen is a blown
>>>>> fuse.
>>>>> You could tap both back up light circuits, run the wires to a central
>>>>> point
>>>>> and tie them together.  That would split the load between the two.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Dick Day
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:23 AM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. What I actually need is a lead that only becomes energized when
>>>>> the
>>>>> car is put into reverse.  The reverse fuse circuit is bundled with
>>>>> several
>>>>> other circuits, so unless I can find a lead somewhere under the dash
>>>>> that
>>>>> handles just the reverse lights, I'm pretty sure I'll end up running an
>>>>> extra line. Not a big deal, was just hoping to avoid running a 12v wire
>>>>> from
>>>>> front to back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Dick
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:04 AM
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of new vehicles also have fuse boxes in the engine compartment.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> might find an extra accessory socket there if you look around.   Also
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> could buy a fuse holder and run a wire directly from the battery
>>>>>> terminal
>>>>>> with the fuse inline near the battery.   What ever you do don't mess
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> pink wire unless you want to replace your airbags after they deploy.
>>>>>> For
>>>>>> safety sake, disconnect the battery before you do any wiring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dick Day
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:21 PM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan, thanks. I was hoping that was the case. I'll grab a test light
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> see.
>>>>>> My back just does not take to that awkward bending like it used to.  I
>>>>>> wish
>>>>>> they could mount those fuse/breaker boxes someplace that was easier to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> to ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Dan Glass"<dglass at numail.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:06 AM
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure on this particular vehicle but on most there is a fuse
>>>>>>> box
>>>>>>> under the dash between the steering column and the door.  It should
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> be labeled as the back up lights.  That would be a good place to tap
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/29/2011 10:13 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am about to install a rear-view camera in our '03 Nav.   The
>>>>>>>> display/Monitor at the dash has a lead to connect to the reverse
>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the rear of the car. This is what supplies power to the camera when
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> reverse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if there is a place at the dash that I could
>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> this?  Or do I need to run an extra power cable to the rear?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this goes well, I'll add one to our '06 as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is such a diverse group of people, I am just curious if anyone
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>> this before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dick
>>>>>>>>
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