[AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)

Mon Dec 31 19:11:31 PST 2012

Easier to say between Tarboro and Farmville!

It was a great day last year, first time I had gone.  They had a 1920's era peanut thrasher in operation, and all the plowing you could stand.  Had a separate field for the 1-3 bottom, smaller tractors, and then a big field for bigger tractors.

Al

-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 31, 2012 10:40 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>
>Oh for others reading,  The plow day Al mentioned is in Conetoe pronounced 
>Cone-knee'-toe not Cone Toe.
>I guess it's an indian name.
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Al Jones
>Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:53 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>
>We own one farm in Onslow but everything else is in Duplin.  I am surprised 
>all the transplants that have moved in around Richlands over the last few 
>years haven't caused an uproar over the litter but if they have I haven't 
>heard of it.
>
>I like the idea of strip till, seems like it is the best of both worlds, 
>deep tillage in a streak just wide enough to plant the seed and no till in 
>the middles.  Hasn't caught on real strong here yet.
>
>I got my Trenton sale card a few weeks ago!  I am probably going to a big 
>plowday at Conetoe, NC that day, if it isn't too wet.  I went last year and 
>had a ball.  I don't have any business spending any mad money anyway and if 
>I go to Trenton I am liable to find something I want.
>
>Al
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: Dec 31, 2012 8:43 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>>
>>Al,  if I am correct Onslow county is in CAMA but Jones and Duplin are not.
>>I think your farm is in Duplin isn't it?
>>Pender would be in CAMA also.  It's basically the counties that join the
>>"coastal waters" meaning the ocean or the
>>sounds.
>>
>>I've been down through your area when turkey manure was being or had been
>>applied to the land.  It's a stinky mess!
>>
>>I agree about the need to open the land up some times.  There just needs to
>>be a way to control erosion.  You know the problem,
>>you plow in late winter and watch the top soil blow away in March before 
>>the
>>crops are planted.  I've never used any of the "new"
>>(post 70's) tillage systems but I like the idea of no til and conservation
>>tillage.  Ho wever,  I think it is better when it's done with
>>big rippers behind big tractors so that the hard pan is shattered and some
>>of the soil is lifted up in the wake of the ripper.   Running
>>a ripper 12 to 18" deep and planting on top of that slot in the ground 
>>makes
>>a lot of sense to me.
>>
>>By the way Al (and anyone else in the area) the annual farm equipment (and
>>junk) sale is Jan 12 in Trenton, NC.
>>As Al knows, it's worth going just to get a plate of the BBQ Pork or BBQ
>>Chicken.   Not much too the sale any more and with the
>>price of scrap metal lately they have to be running out of stuff to sell.
>>
>>Charlie
>>
>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: Al Jones
>>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 10:53 PM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>>
>>
>>Charlie,
>>
>>I don't really keep up with it too much either.  I may be wrong but I don't
>>think we're in the CAMA area where I live.
>>
>>Most all the big farmers here have gone to continuous no-till.  One of the
>>farmers around Richlands has started doing vertical tillage, which involves
>>a machine that looks like a disk but with coulter blades instead of disk
>>blades.  It works the very top few inches of soil, such that you can still
>>call it "no till."  As I understand it, it chops up crop residue while
>>leaving it on the surface, and will incorporate lime, fertilizer, etc. in
>>the top inch or two of the soil so it will percolate on down instead of 
>>just
>>laying on the surface.  He uses a lot of turkey litter and I have seen them
>>running it once the litter has been spread but it doesn't bury it deep
>>enough to kill the stink!
>>
>>I am no soil scientist, but I believe we have some soil types around here
>>that do benefit from being torn open every so often.
>>
>>
>>Al
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>Sent: Dec 30, 2012 9:01 PM
>>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>>>
>>>John I don't keep up with the rules or programs.  It's near about
>>>impossible
>>>to get FSA to explain a program to a land owner.  They only want the 
>>>active
>>>farmers to know about them.
>>>
>>>Oh yes we have some highly erodible lands.  Generally clay soils on 
>>>slopes.
>>>As far as the drainage ditches go, we have some but we can't clean them 
>>>out
>>>any more
>>>unless they have an erosion control device in the end of the ditch to
>>>prevent any silt or mud
>>>or whatever from flowing into a water way.  The state won't even clean out
>>>road ditches now.
>>>I don't know if Al Jones is reading this or not.  He might know more about
>>>the issues down east than I do.
>>>All I know is that you need to wake up thankful every morning that you
>>>don't
>>>live in
>>>the "coastal area management act" (CAMA) area.
>>>
>>>
>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- 
>>>From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>>>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:28 PM
>>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>>>
>>>Highly erodible in your neck of the woods? Please, they cut drainage
>>>ditches
>>>down your way!  :)
>>>
>>>I can't figure out what is going on around here. We are getting farmers
>>>moving into the area grabbing up all the CRP acreage that was pulled out
>>>this fall after 20+ years of being in grass. One farm is leased to a guy
>>>running a new no-till drill on about half of it. The rest of it he is
>>>plowing. I haven't heard of anyone other than tobacco farmers plowing
>>>around
>>>here for almost 20 years. Makes me wonder if the USDA has an incentive
>>>program to no-till like they did about 10 years ago. The only catch was 
>>>you
>>>had to be tilling the land before you got paid to no-till it.
>>>
>>>John Hall
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- 
>>>From: charlie hill
>>>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:56 PM
>>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>>>
>>>It's rare to see a moldboard plow anywhere around here now days.
>>>Everyone is using big tractors with heavy discs, rippers and no til or
>>>conservation til rigs.
>>>I did see a fine looking 4 bottom Allis Chalmers plow sitting beside the
>>>road for sale
>>>on Wed.  I sure wish I had a D-19 or a 185 or 190 to pull it.  I'd love to
>>>have it.
>>>Problem is I can't remember exactly where I saw it now.  I'd have to
>>>backtrack 100 miles to find it.
>>>
>>>Around here the government kind of rides herd on how you till what they
>>>classify as "highly erodible lands" and
>>>it turns out that what little bit of hilly land we have around here 
>>>usually
>>>turns out to be highly erodible so you
>>>have to deal with it no-til or put it on terraces or in pasture.
>>>
>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>
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