[AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)

[Al Jones]

Charlie,

I don't really keep up with it too much either.  I may be wrong but I don't think we're in the CAMA area where I live.

Most all the big farmers here have gone to continuous no-till.  One of the farmers around Richlands has started doing vertical tillage, which involves a machine that looks like a disk but with coulter blades instead of disk blades.  It works the very top few inches of soil, such that you can still call it "no till."  As I understand it, it chops up crop residue while leaving it on the surface, and will incorporate lime, fertilizer, etc. in the top inch or two of the soil so it will percolate on down instead of just laying on the surface.  He uses a lot of turkey litter and I have seen them running it once the litter has been spread but it doesn't bury it deep enough to kill the stink!

I am no soil scientist, but I believe we have some soil types around here that do benefit from being torn open every so often.


Al

-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 30, 2012 9:01 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>
>John I don't keep up with the rules or programs.  It's near about impossible
>to get FSA to explain a program to a land owner.  They only want the active
>farmers to know about them.
>
>Oh yes we have some highly erodible lands.  Generally clay soils on slopes.
>As far as the drainage ditches go, we have some but we can't clean them out 
>any more
>unless they have an erosion control device in the end of the ditch to 
>prevent any silt or mud
>or whatever from flowing into a water way.  The state won't even clean out 
>road ditches now.
>I don't know if Al Jones is reading this or not.  He might know more about 
>the issues down east than I do.
>All I know is that you need to wake up thankful every morning that you don't 
>live in
>the "coastal area management act" (CAMA) area.
>
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:28 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>
>Highly erodible in your neck of the woods? Please, they cut drainage ditches
>down your way!  :)
>
>I can't figure out what is going on around here. We are getting farmers
>moving into the area grabbing up all the CRP acreage that was pulled out
>this fall after 20+ years of being in grass. One farm is leased to a guy
>running a new no-till drill on about half of it. The rest of it he is
>plowing. I haven't heard of anyone other than tobacco farmers plowing around
>here for almost 20 years. Makes me wonder if the USDA has an incentive
>program to no-till like they did about 10 years ago. The only catch was you
>had to be tilling the land before you got paid to no-till it.
>
>John Hall
>
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: charlie hill
>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:56 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>
>It's rare to see a moldboard plow anywhere around here now days.
>Everyone is using big tractors with heavy discs, rippers and no til or
>conservation til rigs.
>I did see a fine looking 4 bottom Allis Chalmers plow sitting beside the
>road for sale
>on Wed.  I sure wish I had a D-19 or a 185 or 190 to pull it.  I'd love to
>have it.
>Problem is I can't remember exactly where I saw it now.  I'd have to
>backtrack 100 miles to find it.
>
>Around here the government kind of rides herd on how you till what they
>classify as "highly erodible lands" and
>it turns out that what little bit of hilly land we have around here usually
>turns out to be highly erodible so you
>have to deal with it no-til or put it on terraces or in pasture.
>
>Charlie
>
>
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