[AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)

[charlie hill]

Ron, I haven't followed this thread all the way through but around here you 
could always tell a tractor that had
been used to plow because the left hand brake was worn out.  Here's why.  We 
would lay out our "land"
by starting in the middle of the field and plowing the first pass for maybe 
100 feet (depending on the size of the field).
We would turn around and make the second pass going the other way throwing 
dirt on top of the first pass with the
furrows on the outside.  We would repeat this until we had plowed roughly a 
square, in this case 100' x 100'.   Then we would start
plowing across the end, again with the furrow out, dirt thrown on the plowed 
ground.  At the end of that pass we would make
a 270 deg left hand turn, hard on the left brake, turning out away from the 
plowed ground, around and back into the side furrow.
Then we would go down that side and across the other end making the same 270 
deg turn at each corner.  That would repeat
until the field was finished.  The idea was to lay the "land" out to match 
the shape of the field.  In my example it would have
needed to be a square field.  The result was that the tractor got run all 
day long, making hard left turns at each corner with the
right brake never being used.   When the field was finished there would be a 
furrow all the way around the outside of the field.

Not sure if that is what is being discussed here but that is why plow 
tractors in NC tobacco country had worn out left brakes.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Cook
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:07 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)

There must have been something wrong with the tractor/plow setup to have
to ride the brake.  If a pull type plow, either or both the drawbars
were set wrong.  Of course, to make it easier there is an adjustable
drawbar that is controlled with a lever or in some instances a hydraulic
cylinder to compensate.  Much better than riding the brake.  The wide
front would help a bunch, too.

Mounted plow?  Dunno.

Ron Cook
Salix, IA, where it happens to be flat but the hills are a couple miles
away.
On 12/30/2012 9:43 AM, Dean Vinson wrote:
> Hi Chuck.  Yes, I can imagine how a wide front would help in that 
> situation.
> I'm betting your hillside plowing days on the Super H weren't in Dallas. 
> :)
>
> I did a lot of sidehill plowing a long time ago but it wasn't with an
> M-series or narrow-front tractor...it was on my dad's old Case VAH.  At 
> the
> time I didn't realize it was a high-crop, or that sidehill plowing with a
> high-crop wasn't necessarily the best idea.  It was just the tractor, and
> the field needed to be plowed.  Fortunately there were no incidents.  I
> don't recall having to use the left brake much to keep the front end from
> drifting downhill.  But I sure burned a lot of gas driving all the way 
> back
> around at the end of each furrow; the hill was steep enough I couldn't 
> throw
> uphill.
>
> Years later, on that same hillside, I used my first Super M to rake hay. 
> No
> trouble then either keeping the tractor straight, but after half an hour 
> or
> so I noticed how tired I was of trying to stay upright in the seat; the
> slope wasn't so steep it was uncomfortable to make a single pass across 
> it,
> but steep enough that after a while it was a pain.  I was glad for fenders
> to rest a stabilizing hand or foot against.
>
> Dean Vinson
> Dayton, Ohio
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bealke
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:21 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Super Ms, Ralph Video. disc brakes etc.)
>
> Dean,
>
> Looking at your sexy tractor naked in the snow, seeing the "steering
> brake" references and recalling your comments a few days ago about band
> vs. disc brakes jogged an old mind.  I remembered one place where the
> wide front end tractors seemed to beat the pants off the tricycles -
> plowing on hillsides.  It was not uncommon to see Farmall disk brakes on
> the trikes' left side blackened from the heat from riding the brake on
> the side uphill from the furrow after plowing perpendicular to the grade
> for hours. One's left leg got a workout.  On the Super H, use of the
> uphill brake was essential to keep the nose up out of the furrow.  With
> armstrong power steering, front end weight seemed no solution.  Wonder
> if the pounding the trike front ends took over the years from
> occasionally dropping the nose into the furrow contributed to the not
> uncommon bolster shaft failures.
>
> Chuck Bealke
> Dallas
>

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