[AT] Chain saw sharpening

Dick Day ddss at telebeep.com
Sat Apr 7 19:27:01 PDT 2012 

Jason, it's most likely the obvious ones that get people into trouble, 
especially people who have had way too many birthdays like me :)

Thanks



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From: "Jason" <dejoodster at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 9:10 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Chain saw sharpening

> Also be sure to unplug the saw before attempting to sharpen the chain.  I
> know that sounds very obvious, but better safe than sorry.
>
> Jason DeJoode
> Eagan, MN
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Chain saw sharpening
>
>
>> You flatter me :)
>>
>> The problem is that the chain will not freely spin on the bar, it
>> absolutely
>> cannot be forced to move. It is locked tight as a drum unless the motor 
>> is
>> running.   I asked Worx how they would manually sharpen the chain on the
>> saw
>> and they said not to. " It must be removed from the saw".  I realize that
>> I
>> could either sharpen the ones that are accessible on the top of the bar
>> and
>> then plug the saw it and give it a quick burst and hope that the chain
>> will
>> stop at a point that I could sharpen more teeth, or loosen the entire bar
>> and re-position the chain, but just the fact that they categorically said
>> to
>> "remove it for sharpening" caught my attention.
>>
>> Can you think of any reason they would flat out say to never sharpen the
>> chain on the saw?   I couldn't understand their logic but must assume 
>> they
>> have a good reason.
>>
>> Dave, did you get a chance to look at this site?    Twenty-five to $30 
>> for
>> a
>> Worx chain vs. $13 for the Oregon chain.     Seems like a big disparity 
>> in
>> price.
>>
>> As always, thanks for the feedback.
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:33 PM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Chain saw sharpening
>>
>>> Dick, There is NO NEED to take either the chain nor the bar off the saw!
>>> A
>>> pair of heavy lether gloves (welding gloves work well) can be used to
>>> hold
>>> the chain in place on the bar (on the the saw) while you sharpen it. 
>>> This
>>> IS NOT brain surgery and you are making too big a deal out of it. If I
>>> can
>>> do it ANYONE can!
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry to drag this back out of the deleted folder :)
>>>>
>>>> It seems that the Worx electric chain saws do not allow you to move the
>>>> chain for sharpening.  The factory said that the chain must be removed
>>>> from
>>>> the saw.
>>>>
>>>> I would really like to sharpen the chains with a file and not go the
>>>> electric route.  I cannot find an device that holds the chain in place
>>>> that
>>>> allow for manual filing (similar to the ones used on electric 
>>>> grinders).
>>>> Do they make such a thing?   Any reason I could not take the bar and
>>>> chain
>>>> off the saw and use the bar to hold the chain while I sharpen?   I'm
>>>> sure
>>>> I'd have to figure a way to keep the chain taught while I sharpen.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Also, the Worx replacement chains run anywhere from $25 to $30 plus
>>>> shipping. I contacted Oregon and asked them for the Oregon part number
>>>> for
>>>> that chain.  It  must be an odd one because very few places carry it.
>>>> It's
>>>> a 91VG063G, they also referred to it as a 50RG63.   I found an ebay
>>>> store
>>>> located outside Chicago that sells this exact chain for $12.63 plus
>>>> $5.99
>>>> shipping on the first one, and $2.00 for each additional item.  I for
>>>> sure
>>>> will buy a few just to have because there is good chance that I may
>>>> destroy
>>>> one while learning to sharpen.  I mention this in case anyone wants to
>>>> see
>>>> if they carry chains you may need at reduced prices...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/91VG063G-OREGON-CHAIN-CHAIN-LOOP-3-8-050-/280639897247#ht_2723wt_1139
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:46 AM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Chain saw sharpening
>>>>
>>>>> I used to work for the forest service (as a teenager) and our work
>>>>> leaders
>>>>> were yoga masters in sharpening.  But alas, I was a teenager and 
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> pay close attention.   I fortunately married a woman whose father was
>>>>> good
>>>>> at sharpening too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Between the time of the yoga masters and father-in-law I was inept at
>>>>> sharpening and tried every gadget and device under the sun.  Bottom
>>>>> line
>>>>> is if you can't sharpen with just a file, You can't sharpen with this
>>>>> year's super gadget", dremel, guide,etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is what i finally learned from them:  Great sharpening is all
>>>>> frequency and consistency.  Those are learned through practice and
>>>>> patience.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to stink at this because I have alway stunk at things that 
>>>>> can't
>>>>> be
>>>>> a acquired without cleverness, brute strength and speed.   Marriage 
>>>>> and
>>>>> chain sharpening taught me to appreciate the role of zen in my life.
>>>>>
>>>>> I swear:  You don't need a guide or electricity.   I don't use a 
>>>>> handle
>>>>> either because I like to feel how the file is cutting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like the others mentioned too:  Do it  every tank of fuel.
>>>>>
>>>>> As was also mentioned before; Don't sharpen a damaged chain though.
>>>>> Give
>>>>> that to a professional (or just buy a new one as I do).
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Spencer
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2012, at 21:49, "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can get the chain sharpened locally for $18.  I've seen manual file
>>>>>> sets that mount on the bar and allow you to sharpen the chain. I've
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> seen electric, both 12-volt and 110.   The reviews I've read about 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> electric ones are quick to point out that the cheap ones don't last. 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> cannot justify $150 and up for a decent one, so I figured I would try
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> hand at manual sharpening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an 18" electric Worx chain saw and love it.  The specifics of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> chain are gauge=.05  length=18"  links=63  pitch=3/8"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone suggest what I should get to sharpen the chain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick Day
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