[AT] Was: Shop ceiling, now mosquito control

Wed Sep 28 05:07:51 PDT 2011

Bruce,
    Sorry to take things off-topic but tell me more about the bats and how
you use them for mosquito control. This sounds quite interesting. With West
Nile Virus making the rounds, natural suppression of those little
bloodsuckers sounds like a great idea. I'd like to find more information on
this; where did you find out about bat houses?
    My wife gets eaten up by mosquitoes. They fly right by me and leave her
with itchy red welts. I tell her I'm too old and crusty for them but I
really have no idea why they prefer her. Maybe it's the gear lube cologne I
use?

Ken in AZ

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:52 AM, <robbrut at aol.com> wrote:

>
> I agree with Mike's blown-in insulation recommendation, and for another
> reason other than the obvious ones like its ease of installation, R value
> and filling cavities well.
> Mine has to do with critters' (mice, squirrels, bats, flying squirrels)
> aversion to the blow-in stuff.
> When I built my house in the woods, i used fiberglas batt insulation
> (itchy) an really built up the attic ceiling.
> Within a year it was a condo for mice, two years later tha squirrels
> discovered it. and within ten years, all of the insualtion over the main
> area was gone, having been pulled to the eaves for huge nests.
> I had all of the FG removed, along with the mummified remains of former
> residents who didn't like the TomCat diet, and replaced it all with
> loose-fill cellulose (blow-in type).
> That was 5 years ago, and I still don't see any disturbance of the
> cellulose material, nor is there any mouse/squirrel poop to be seen anywhere
> up there.
> I have been told that there are two factors that make vermin dislike it,
> one is the fireproofing treatment (boric acid) done to the cellulose, and
> the other is that it sticks to the critters fur and resists tunneling.
> By the way, I built a bathouse/condo for my bats who are enjoying their new
> digs and are still keeping us mosquito-free.
> Bruce Thompson
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike 1countryguy <mdo_1 at hotmail.com>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 28, 2011 12:38 am
> Subject: Re: [AT] Shop ceiling
>
>
>
> teel roofing when nailed or screwed in will be strong on 4 ft centers.
>  Blown
> nsulation is the easy way to get a lot of r values.  Mine has been on ten
> years
> nd no problem.  Why go to the time and expense of the waifer board.
> > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:51:03 -0400
>  From: rlgoss at insightbb.com
>  To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>  Subject: Re: [AT] Shop ceiling
>
>  I think I would want something a little more substantial to support the
> nsulation than just the tin that's used for ceilings.  When I built my
> shop, I
> sed OSB for the bottom four feet (laid horizontally.) and TEMPERED peg
> board
> or the top four feet.  That lets me hang shelving and tools anywhere above
> the
> our-foot level, and work benches and storage cabinets fill in over the OSB.
>  I
> sed standard gypsum drywall for the ceiling.  I rented a drywall lift from
> Home
> epot, and installed the whole ceiling in less than half a day all by
> myself.  I
> ear you loud and clear on needing to raise and lower whole panels to make
> sure
> he cut outs are in the right location.  That's why I rented one that was
> made
> or the job at Home Depot.  Just put the panel on the carrier, cut it to
> shape,
> dd the cut outs, flip it to horizontal, and turn the big wheel to clamp the
> hole panel to the ceiling.
>
>  Larry
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Don Bowen" <don.bowen at earthlink.net>
>  To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <
> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:17:28 PM
>  Subject: [AT] Shop ceiling
>
>  I was talking with my builder friend this evening about the next step in
>  my shop.  It is a pole building that I put up false walls between the 5
>  by 5 poles.  The walls are 2X4 on 24" centers with roll insulation
>  between then covered with 7/16" OSB.  For the ceiling I put 2X6 joists
>  between the trusses and was planning on covering with the same OSB.  THe
>  problem soon became obvious.  The building is not square, I have 6
>  lighting outlets, 4 switched plugs for task lighting, and 4 hanging
>  outlets, all would need holes through the OSB so each sheet may be
>  lifted two or three times to a 9' 6" ceiling.  I had designed a panel
>  lift for my engine hoist.
>
>  Then my friend said that many here use tin.  He said I could get No 2
>  tin and he and I could put it in place in an afternoon.  Then I will use
>  blown in cellulose insulation.  It will make a nice warm shop for these
>  mild Ozark winters.
>
>  Any comments on this idea?
>
>  --
>  Don Bowen           KI6DIU
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