[AT] California Combine history was Saskatchewan

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Wed Oct 5 06:56:04 PDT 2011


The more I think about it,  I believe we sowed the top of the burlap sack 
with a sack needle and tied the string around one corner leaving a sort of 
"ear" on the corner of the bag but that was at least 50 years ago.  It's 
hard to remember.

Charlie Hill

-----Original Message----- 
From: charlie hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] California Combine history was Saskatchewan

Charlie now that you mention it I think there might have been a trip
platform.  It seems like all we did was tie one corner of the bag somehow.
I remember it being fairly easy to do and I was allowed to do it a few
times.  We lived about 3 hours from my grandparents and I seldom was down
there when there was any farm work going on because we were usually there on
holidays and weekends.  if I remember right the day we used that combine
Granddaddy had just a small patch, a couple of acres, of beans or maybe it
was oats that he needed to combine and bag and we helped him.

Charlie Hill

-----Original Message----- 
From: Charlie V
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:34 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] California Combine history was Saskatchewan

Later combines may have had stichers, Charlie.  I do not know.  What I
remember was the old standard piece of twine, tied with a millers
knot.  I also seem to remember a trip platform where the grain bag
sat.  After the bag was tied, just trip the platform and dump it off.
Our IH model 61 was equipped with a 15 bushel bin, so I never worked a
bagger equipped machine.

Charlie V.



On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:48 AM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:
> Al,  that 52R might be the same machine that my grandfather had.  I don't
> remember much about it but I do remember it was an IH and a bagger.  I can
> remember as a small boy standing on the platform with my father or maybe
> it
> was one of my uncles.   "We"  would take the full sack and somehow tie or
> sew it shut  (I can't remember which now) and then shove it off on the
> ground before the next one was full.  I remember it being a very dusty
> job.
>
> Charlie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:25 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] California Combine history was Saskatchewan
>
> I am fascinated by combines.  The pictures of the giants from the 1800's
> and
> early 1900's pulled by dozens of horses, are a sight to see!
>
> I have two IH pull types, 52R's.  The earlier one is a sacker with a
> Continental Y69 engine, the later one is a bagger with a Farmall Cub
> engine.
> I need to find a good home for the sacker.  My "dream" is to have a nice
> 70's model Massey Ferguson 300 from out of the mid-west in my collection,
> and maybe even 25 acres of my own to run through it!  This was my dad's
> first combine he bought used in the late 70's. I was a LITTLE kid but I
> can
> remember how B-I-G it looked!  Rode over a lot of acres in the cab with my
> grandaddy, I heard him say that he never expected to be a "big enough
> farmer" to operate a combine.  Back then a Deere 4400 was a big combine
> here, Massey 510 was MASSIVE.  The 300 ended up catching fire and burning
> up, it was replaced by a later, diesel 300 with quick-attach headers. It
> was
> worn out when it left us.
>
> Al
>
>>
>>On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Gene's Wowway e-mail wrote:
>>
>>> Why would they set this up as a PTO machine?  Back in "my day" even many
>>> small 6-7 foot combines were run by a Wisconsin or whatever.  Is it
>>> simply
>>> because larger tractors that can handle the PTO & pulling chores
>>available?
>>> I remember my granddad 'graduating' from a 5 ft Oliver combine to a 6 ft
>>> IH - How puny by today's standards!!!  They were both PTO, pulled by
>>> (initially) an old JD unstyled G and later, in the more modern age, a
>>> 1954
>>> M.
>>>
>>> GeneW
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: charlie hill
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:29 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Harvesting in Sask.
>>>
>>> It's a heck of a machine to be running on PTO.   I guess the reason we
>>never
>>> see those around here is their size compared to our fields and roads and
>>the
>>> fact that they'd be hard to pull on our soil types.
>>> We have some big self propelled machines here but they take up the whole
>>> highway and cause a lot of grief for folks when they move.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ralph Goff
>>> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:18 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Harvesting in Sask.
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2011 4:01 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>> Nice rig Ralph and good looking oats too.   How much PTO HP does it
>>>> take
>>>> to
>>>> pull that combine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks Charlie. The oats turned out way better than last year. I'm
>>> running 170 horsepower Case IH and it seems quite adequate. I think JD
>>> recommends 150 hp minimum horsepower for the 7721. It needs a heavy
>>> tractor especially in hilly land as there is a lot of weight back there.
>>> Especially when the grain tank is getting over half full.
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>
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