[Farmall] Farmall Digest, Vol 91, Issue 4
john hall
jtchall at nc.rr.com
Sun Nov 20 05:29:15 PST 2011
One other thing I'll add to Kevin's post is that we sometimes saw the hose
in half with a hacksaw if you can tell where the 2 water outlets are and if
you can get the saw in there. Like he said, anything to reduce the stress on
the outlets on the radiator.
Check your hose clamps and replace with some good name brand USA made hose
clamps---the Chinese crap will twist up and strip. When installing the new
hoses we add some hand cleaner (the kind without grit), it makes reassembly
much easier.
John Hall
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Bish" <krsky at windstream.net>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall Digest, Vol 91, Issue 4
Hi Cliff,
drain the antifreeze first. Loosen up the clamps and slide them out of the
way. Use a utilty knife to cut the hose the long way, and take them off.
Sometimes when you try and use pliers or channel locks to loosen up the
hoses, you end up breaking something else loose on the radiator, when they
are very tight. Napa should have the hoses you need. I buy the different
size hoses in 3 foot lengths, and sell them buy the inch. Let me know if you
need any help with what sizes you need,for your tractor. I have a book that
tells me the sizes for the Farmall's. Then you can just go and tell them at
the auto parts what you need. Thanks, Kevin.
Dayton Tractor Parts,Dayton, PA 16222
----- Original Message -----
From: <clifford.e.potter at snet.net>
To: <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall Digest, Vol 91, Issue 4
What is the easist way to change Farmall A radiator hoses? Does NAPA carry
them? Thanks Cliff
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message-----
From: farmall-request at lists.antique-tractor.com
Sender: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:00:02
To: <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Reply-To: farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
Subject: Farmall Digest, Vol 91, Issue 4
Send Farmall mailing list submissions to
farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
farmall-request at lists.antique-tractor.com
You can reach the person managing the list at
farmall-owner at lists.antique-tractor.com
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Farmall digest..."
Today's Topics:
1. Carb Question (Jerry Bossard)
2. Re: Carb Question (Mike Sloane)
3. Re: Carb Question (Robert Luscomb)
4. Re: Carb Question (David Steinich)
5. Re: Carb Question (Jerry Bossard)
6. Re: Carb Question (Stan Bass)
7. Re: Carb Question (Jerry Bossard)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:37:17 -0600
From: Jerry Bossard <jerry.bossard at gmail.com>
Subject: [Farmall] Carb Question
To: farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
Message-ID:
<CAEjznxUT3ovoFhmaAH+h4DdFVGO15_B3jzsR+EmTmF0i0P5zNQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hello. I have a 1942 H and I assume has a carb problem. Last night I ran
the tractor at 1/3 throttle and let it run for an 1 hour and 20 minutes to
find out how much gas it was consuming. I have a 1 gal gas tank hooked up
and filled the tank full. At the end of 1 hour and 20 minutes the 1 gal
tank was nearly empty. Is this normal? Also when the tractor is parked I
find that gas is dripping from the idle needle screw and there is gas in
the carb intake hose from the air cleaner. I'm assuming I have a carb O
ring issue that has not sealed properly? Do anyone have a schematic or
drawing of what rubber seals are suppose to go where? I'll probably pick
up a rebuild kit from TSC but does it have the correct instructions for the
rubber seal placement in the kit?
Thanks,
Jerry
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:19:48 -0500
From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Carb Question
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Message-ID: <4EC6A1C4.9000301 at verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I can't tell you how much gas you should be consuming at 1/3 throttle,
but I generally figure about 1 gallon per hour when working.
As far as your leak, I would say your problem is that your float valve
is not seating properly. This could be caused by either a worn
needle/seat or a float that has a pin hole, resulting in the float not
rising all the way (because of gas inside the float). You can find
instructions for determining if you have a pin hole and how to remedy
the problem. Most folks claim that soldering the brass is the only way,
but I have had good luck with a very small amount of two-part epoxy like
JB Weld. The risk of soldering is that too much heat can cause the seams
to let go, and it doesn't take much. Force your float into a container
of very hot water - if you get bubbles from air escaping, that will tell
you if and where the leak is. I would change out the needle and seat
after cleaning the carburetor.
Generally speaking, the most you will find in a carb kit these days is a
diagram of the parts and not much else. I don't buy carb kits from TSC
because I have been disappointed in the quality of their parts in the
past - lots of stuff from Asia. I suggest that you buy your kit from
either Case IH or your local NAPA auto parts dealer.
My repeated suggestion to anyone who is serious about maintaining their
IH tractor is to buy a service manual from Binder Books
<www.binderbooks.com>. The price is reasonable, and the information is
invaluable. I would also recommend buying the parts manual while you are
at it. Especially in the case of carburetors, IH may have supplied more
than one version, and the parts manual will help you identify the one on
your tractor.
Mike
On 11/18/2011 12:37 PM, Jerry Bossard wrote:
> Hello. I have a 1942 H and I assume has a carb problem. Last night I ran
> the tractor at 1/3 throttle and let it run for an 1 hour and 20 minutes to
> find out how much gas it was consuming. I have a 1 gal gas tank hooked up
> and filled the tank full. At the end of 1 hour and 20 minutes the 1 gal
> tank was nearly empty. Is this normal? Also when the tractor is parked I
> find that gas is dripping from the idle needle screw and there is gas in
> the carb intake hose from the air cleaner. I'm assuming I have a carb O
> ring issue that has not sealed properly? Do anyone have a schematic or
> drawing of what rubber seals are suppose to go where? I'll probably pick
> up a rebuild kit from TSC but does it have the correct instructions for
> the
> rubber seal placement in the kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:33:54 -0500
From: Robert Luscomb <rluscomb at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Carb Question
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Message-ID: <573D61DA-694F-4EA8-8976-80E475B0B659 at yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Don't get a carb kit from tsc they r junk and the Chinese aren't very good
w/standard measurement
Thanks, Robert
On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:37, Jerry Bossard <jerry.bossard at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello. I have a 1942 H and I assume has a carb problem. Last night I ran
> the tractor at 1/3 throttle and let it run for an 1 hour and 20 minutes to
> find out how much gas it was consuming. I have a 1 gal gas tank hooked up
> and filled the tank full. At the end of 1 hour and 20 minutes the 1 gal
> tank was nearly empty. Is this normal? Also when the tractor is parked I
> find that gas is dripping from the idle needle screw and there is gas in
> the carb intake hose from the air cleaner. I'm assuming I have a carb O
> ring issue that has not sealed properly? Do anyone have a schematic or
> drawing of what rubber seals are suppose to go where? I'll probably pick
> up a rebuild kit from TSC but does it have the correct instructions for
> the
> rubber seal placement in the kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:17:18 -0600
From: David Steinich <dsteinich at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Carb Question
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Message-ID:
<CAE2z5QUzAWw7wr1XCLSam5U8nT4L-Z4Fti0TKLkujeVLBpBC3g at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I would guess either the float isn't set right or there's crud in the
needle valve. A quick search found a parts diagram for that carb at
www.messicks.com/cas/248.aspx
On Nov 18, 2011 11:44 AM, "Jerry Bossard" <jerry.bossard at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello. I have a 1942 H and I assume has a carb problem. Last night I ran
> the tractor at 1/3 throttle and let it run for an 1 hour and 20 minutes to
> find out how much gas it was consuming. I have a 1 gal gas tank hooked up
> and filled the tank full. At the end of 1 hour and 20 minutes the 1 gal
> tank was nearly empty. Is this normal? Also when the tractor is parked I
> find that gas is dripping from the idle needle screw and there is gas in
> the carb intake hose from the air cleaner. I'm assuming I have a carb O
> ring issue that has not sealed properly? Do anyone have a schematic or
> drawing of what rubber seals are suppose to go where? I'll probably pick
> up a rebuild kit from TSC but does it have the correct instructions for
> the
> rubber seal placement in the kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:06:00 -0600
From: Jerry Bossard <jerry.bossard at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Carb Question
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Message-ID:
<CAEjznxUDw-B9gTDrFDHEWs1R-x13MmHFNRvgfoNMYt-NakG1ow at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Mike, Robert and David,
You guys rock! Thanks for that very helpful information. I plan on
working on it this next week. Greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Jerry
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>wrote:
> I can't tell you how much gas you should be consuming at 1/3 throttle,
> but I generally figure about 1 gallon per hour when working.
>
> As far as your leak, I would say your problem is that your float valve
> is not seating properly. This could be caused by either a worn
> needle/seat or a float that has a pin hole, resulting in the float not
> rising all the way (because of gas inside the float). You can find
> instructions for determining if you have a pin hole and how to remedy
> the problem. Most folks claim that soldering the brass is the only way,
> but I have had good luck with a very small amount of two-part epoxy like
> JB Weld. The risk of soldering is that too much heat can cause the seams
> to let go, and it doesn't take much. Force your float into a container
> of very hot water - if you get bubbles from air escaping, that will tell
> you if and where the leak is. I would change out the needle and seat
> after cleaning the carburetor.
>
> Generally speaking, the most you will find in a carb kit these days is a
> diagram of the parts and not much else. I don't buy carb kits from TSC
> because I have been disappointed in the quality of their parts in the
> past - lots of stuff from Asia. I suggest that you buy your kit from
> either Case IH or your local NAPA auto parts dealer.
>
> My repeated suggestion to anyone who is serious about maintaining their
> IH tractor is to buy a service manual from Binder Books
> <www.binderbooks.com>. The price is reasonable, and the information is
> invaluable. I would also recommend buying the parts manual while you are
> at it. Especially in the case of carburetors, IH may have supplied more
> than one version, and the parts manual will help you identify the one on
> your tractor.
>
> Mike
>
> On 11/18/2011 12:37 PM, Jerry Bossard wrote:
> > Hello. I have a 1942 H and I assume has a carb problem. Last night I
> ran
> > the tractor at 1/3 throttle and let it run for an 1 hour and 20 minutes
> to
> > find out how much gas it was consuming. I have a 1 gal gas tank hooked
> up
> > and filled the tank full. At the end of 1 hour and 20 minutes the 1 gal
> > tank was nearly empty. Is this normal? Also when the tractor is parked
> I
> > find that gas is dripping from the idle needle screw and there is gas in
> > the carb intake hose from the air cleaner. I'm assuming I have a carb O
> > ring issue that has not sealed properly? Do anyone have a schematic or
> > drawing of what rubber seals are suppose to go where? I'll probably
> > pick
> > up a rebuild kit from TSC but does it have the correct instructions for
> the
> > rubber seal placement in the kit?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jerry
> > _______________________________________________
> > Farmall mailing list
> > http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:49:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Stan Bass <srbheadlight at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Carb Question
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Message-ID:
<1321685393.63105.YahooMailClassic at web111303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I often figure close to that as well. In the Nebraska Tractor tests I see
many gas engine fuel usage figures around 10 hp/hour/gallon. So it's based
on load when you're working, and I guess more an issue of displacement and
tuning for the minimum gasoline used at idle. A Farmall Cub (60 cubic inches
and 10hp) working flat out might not use more than a Super M (264 inches) at
idle.
Stan(VA).
> I can't tell you how much gas you should be consuming at 1/3 throttle,
> but I generally figure about 1 gallon per hour when working.
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:29:52 -0600
From: Jerry Bossard <jerry.bossard at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Carb Question
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Message-ID:
<CAEjznxXuBokeoeNK9YtN=7i1nAWfyEJpz9qovZHCwiFR1f=QvQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Thanks Stan!
On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Stan Bass <srbheadlight at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I often figure close to that as well. In the Nebraska Tractor tests I see
many gas engine fuel usage figures around 10 hp/hour/gallon. So it's based
on load when you're working, and I guess more an issue of displacement and
tuning for the minimum gasoline used at idle. A Farmall Cub (60 cubic
inches and 10hp) working flat out might not use more than a Super M (264
inches) at idle.
> Stan(VA).
>
>> I can't tell you how much gas you should be consuming at 1/3 throttle,
>> but I generally figure about 1 gallon per hour when working.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>
------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Farmall mailing list
Farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
End of Farmall Digest, Vol 91, Issue 4
**************************************
_______________________________________________
Farmall mailing list
http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
_______________________________________________
Farmall mailing list
http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
More information about the AT
mailing list