[Farmall] Restoration

Robert L. Holtzer rholtzer at earthlink.net
Tue May 24 22:37:37 PDT 2011


On 5/24/2011 9:14 PM, Barney Van De Weert wrote:
> I don't know the brand of sprayer, I googled the painting websie.
>   Barney Van De Weert
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jerry Bossard<jerry.bossard at gmail.com>
> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 10:48:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Restoration
>
> Barney,
>
> Thank you for all your information and experience.  What brand of sprayer
> did you use?  You don't happen to remember where you got the spray gun
> settings from, do you?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Barney Van De Weert<bbvande at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Use a high volume low pressure gun, I bought a set of 3, primer, paint and
>> touch
>> up for about $80.00. Make sure you use a good drier on the air line. Also a
>> thick layer of paint is not desirable, get the spray pattern set and spray
>> until
>> you get the coat up to a shine and get away befoe you get tempted to hit it
>> one
>> more time. If you don't get it up to a shine you'll get an orange peel
>> effect,
>> any more and you will get runs.
>>    Barney Van De Weert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jerry Bossard<jerry.bossard at gmail.com>
>> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 1:58:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Restoration
>>
>> Bobcurrie,
>>
>> Thanks for the information.  I'm mainly going to use the primer for the
>> areas that need a little sanding and mainly just repaint the entire
>> tractor.
>> However, there are some parts that I need to wire brush to the bare metal
>> because of small rust spots.  The primer will be used very little, just
>> curious to know what others have done.  I think I have decided to spray
>> paint the entire tractor with a spray gun and compressor.  I may brush a
>> few
>> areas, but in the interest of time and since it will be my work tractor, I
>> am more interested in getting a couple of good coats of paint on for extra
>> durability.
>>
>> Thanks again for your wealth of information.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Bob Currie<tracturs at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> General rule of thumb Jerry is that you get what you pay for. It might
>> help
>>> to read the fine print on the can. My guess is that the  restoration
>> series
>>> paint has a touch more pigment in the mix. As far as primer goes, I kind
>> of
>>> echo Mike comments. Why are you using primer? Did you take all the old
>>> paint
>>> off, or just wire brushed or sand it down? There are different kinds of
>>> primer, regardless of what color you choose. Filler or "sanding" primer
>> is
>>> usually marked on the can and I mostly see it in red. It is very sandable
>>> and is used to fill minor sanding scratches and the like so your color
>>> coats
>>> will be nice and smooth and shiny.  If that is not a concern to you, then
>> a
>>> good non sandable red primer would be fine.  I usually pay a little more
>>> and
>>> after a good sanding or prep job, I like to use an etching primer. It
>> does
>>> what a primer is supposed to do, that being add a basic coat to the metal
>>> that will help the finish coats of paint adhere and flow out nice and
>>> smooth. That rule doesn't apply to the casted parts you might paint,
>> since
>>> they aren't smooth to start with. I've had very decent luck painting
>> those
>>> surfaces with no sanding, just wire brushing or sand blasting, and using
>> a
>>> good paint brush. The paint will flow out fairly good and you won't see
>> any
>>> brush marks. So....good luck on your project and let us know how it's
>>> working out.
>>>
>>> bobcurrie
>>> Greenwood, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jerry Bossard"<jerry.bossard at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Restoration
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know the difference between Valspar Restoration Series
>>> Tractor
>>>> &
>>>> Implement Finish versus Valspar Tractor&  Implement Finish paints?  Is
>>> one
>>>> really better than the other?  The price difference at Tractor Supply
>> is
>>>> $53.00 for restoration series and $37.00 for the other.  $16.00
>>>> difference!
>>>> Both are High Gloss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jerry Bossard
>>>> <jerry.bossard at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Carl,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for that information!  That helps a bunch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM,<szabelsk at gdls.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The red primer is usually for rusty metal, not clean metal. Read the
>>>>>> label
>>>>>> and see it that's what it says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, a gray primer usually requires fewer top coats of red to obtain
>> a
>>>>>> good deep color.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Red is a hard color to paint with. The pigment is usually thin and
>> lets
>>>>>> the primer underneath show through. Colors other than gray seem to
>>> bleed
>>>>>> through red pretty easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl Szabelski
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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The Case-IH spray can paint works about as good as a more elaborate 
spray system.  This is particularly true in tight spots.  On the other 
hand, doing tanks and hoods, a bulk sprayer of some sort makes life easier!

Bob Holtzer



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