[AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel

[charlie hill]

Al,  are you old enough to remember the "mouthballed" liberty ships in the 
creek just south of Wilmington (just past the USS North Carolina).

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Jones
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:11 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel

Interesting.  What did the Iowa class battleships use when they were 
re-activated in the '80s?  Black oil or JP5?

Al


-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Bruer <bill_bru at bellsouth.net>
>Sent: May 7, 2011 10:16 AM
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>Yes, that is the old black oil but it's use didn't end with WW II.  When I
>reported aboard the USS Wainwright DLG-28 in September of 1971 they had 
>just
>finished converting from black oil to JP5 - kerosene.  Wainwright was laid
>down in 1962 and commissioned in 1966.  Black oil was used in virtually all
>the steam turbine-driven ships (except nukes, of course) from WW II onward
>until the early 1970's.  I doubt that any of the WW II era ships were ever
>converted before being sold, scrapped, or given away.
>
>Bill Bruer
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:40 AM
>Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel
>
>
>I was going to ask about #5---is it what the Navy used for ships during
>WWII?  I think I have read somewhere (of course I can't remember exactly
>which book, but it would almost have to be about the USS North Carolina)
>they used something called "Navy special black fuel oil."
>
>Al
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: May 7, 2011 8:20 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel
>>
>>Is #5 the same thing that is sometimes called "bunker C" oil.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: Ron Cook
>>Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:12 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel
>>
>>Same in Iowa, Ralph.  #5 is pretty thick.  Lots of btu's, though.  I
>>used to work at a petroleum jobber.  The only place locally that I know
>>of that used #5 was the brick yard to fire their kilns.  That arrived in
>>tank cars.  In the winter I would deliver #1 to their storage with a
>>tankwagon to thin the #5.  That was 40 years ago.  If that tractor had
>>#5 in it, it likely could not atomize well enough to fire.
>>
>>Ron Cook
>>Salix, IA
>>
>>On 5/6/2011 10:39 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2011 8:28 PM, Charlie V wrote:
>>>> I will most likely be corrected on this, Joe. since it may not be
>>>> accurate.  As I recall from a Diesel mechanics course that I took over
>>>> 50 years ago, heating oil is #5.  Diesel is #2 and Kerosene is #1.  I
>>>> believe these numbers derive from the cuts (after gasoline) in the
>>>> refining distillation process from crude.  I keep in mind that when
>>>> our local school district got the first real cold day with the new low
>>>> sulfur fuel a couple of years ago, they ended up with about 25 of the
>>>> buses not running at the same time.  The fix was found to be to add 15
>>>> percent Kerosene.  I did the same to my '86 Ford F-250 and that also
>>>> solved it's cold starting problem so I assume the kero not only
>>>> prevents jelling, but also improves volatility a little.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie V.
>>> To the best of my knowledge, in Canada anyway, the fuel oil you burn in
>>> your furnace to heat the house is the same fuel that goes into the
>>> diesel tractor and trucks. Only difference is the price.
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>
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