[AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel

[charlie hill]

Ron if you want some clear K-1 Kerosene for your lamps, supposedly you can 
buy it from the paint department at Lowes Home Improvement stores.  It's 
packaged in 5 gal containers to be used as paint
thinner.  I think it's about $35.00 per 5 gal can.  I believe it is under 
the Crown brand.  It's approved by the manufacturer of the kerosene lanterns 
I bought a while back.   If you don't have Lowes nearby probably any chain 
paint store (ICI Devoe, Sherwin Williams, Benjamin Moore, etc) can get the 
Crown brand products.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Cook
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:05 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel

Gene,
     I have not been in the fuel business for years, and having said
that, I have not seen any clear kero around here for some time.  I have
that red crap in my lamps for when the electricity goes off.  All I can
say is that it is pretty if you like red.
     I would have to win the lotto to buy a paper airplane.:-) But if I
do......am going to put out a contract on the SOB that makes us use ULS
diesel.  That crap is ruining the engines that were not designed for it,
which is most of the fleet yet.  My 3406C Cat does not like it unless I
mix some sort of oil with it.
     We have gotten ripped off big time with aviation gasoline.  100LL
has never been approved for any engine I know of.  It is just used as
that is all there is.  My Franklin in the Stinson was certified with
unleaded aviation gasoline.  I have no idea where that stuff might be
found.  An STC is supposed to be required to burn unleaded car gas.  I
might have to include the FAA on the contract.
     I doubt the diesel aircraft engines will work out in my time.  Too
expensive.  May as well go turbine.  The diesels will burn much less
fuel which would be a big plus.  My Franklin in the Stinson was
certified with unleaded aviation gasoline.
     I try to end the summer with 100LL in the tractors that won't be
used all winter.  I also use it in my John Deere E hit & miss engines.
Makes 'em smell different and pop loud.

Ron Cook
Salix, IA

On 5/7/2011 12:10 PM, Gene Dotson wrote:
>      Ron;
>
>      Yes, there are many differences in the lighter fuels, but didn't want 
> to
> go into them.
>
>      Kerosene is available here as the Amish use it in their lamps. Very
> expensive to buy. It has to be clear with no dye to protect the lamo 
> wicks.
>
>      Good friend works maintenance at Ohio University Airport and one of 
> his
> responsibilities is to sump the tanks. He has a Ford diesel truck and adds
> jetA to his fuel and also runs his MM tractors on 100LL. He is very 
> careful
> to get a good, big sample each probe. Another of his responsibilities is 
> the
> careful disposal of the contaminated fuel to prevent any environmental
> problems.
>
>      The new diesel powered piston airplanes run on straight jetA and they
> have yet to deternine service limits for these engines, but some are
> predicting 3,500 hours. When I hit the lottery, I am going to buy one of 
> the
> SMA powered Maule M9-230"s.
>
>                          Gene
>
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