[AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel

Bill Bruer bill_bru at bellsouth.net
Sat May 7 07:16:02 PDT 2011


Yes, that is the old black oil but it's use didn't end with WW II.  When I 
reported aboard the USS Wainwright DLG-28 in September of 1971 they had just 
finished converting from black oil to JP5 - kerosene.  Wainwright was laid 
down in 1962 and commissioned in 1966.  Black oil was used in virtually all 
the steam turbine-driven ships (except nukes, of course) from WW II onward 
until the early 1970's.  I doubt that any of the WW II era ships were ever 
converted before being sold, scrapped, or given away.

Bill Bruer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel


I was going to ask about #5---is it what the Navy used for ships during 
WWII?  I think I have read somewhere (of course I can't remember exactly 
which book, but it would almost have to be about the USS North Carolina) 
they used something called "Navy special black fuel oil."

Al


-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: May 7, 2011 8:20 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel
>
>Is #5 the same thing that is sometimes called "bunker C" oil.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Ron Cook
>Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:12 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Fuel Oil vs. Diesel Fuel
>
>Same in Iowa, Ralph.  #5 is pretty thick.  Lots of btu's, though.  I
>used to work at a petroleum jobber.  The only place locally that I know
>of that used #5 was the brick yard to fire their kilns.  That arrived in
>tank cars.  In the winter I would deliver #1 to their storage with a
>tankwagon to thin the #5.  That was 40 years ago.  If that tractor had
>#5 in it, it likely could not atomize well enough to fire.
>
>Ron Cook
>Salix, IA
>
>On 5/6/2011 10:39 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
>> On 5/6/2011 8:28 PM, Charlie V wrote:
>>> I will most likely be corrected on this, Joe. since it may not be
>>> accurate.  As I recall from a Diesel mechanics course that I took over
>>> 50 years ago, heating oil is #5.  Diesel is #2 and Kerosene is #1.  I
>>> believe these numbers derive from the cuts (after gasoline) in the
>>> refining distillation process from crude.  I keep in mind that when
>>> our local school district got the first real cold day with the new low
>>> sulfur fuel a couple of years ago, they ended up with about 25 of the
>>> buses not running at the same time.  The fix was found to be to add 15
>>> percent Kerosene.  I did the same to my '86 Ford F-250 and that also
>>> solved it's cold starting problem so I assume the kero not only
>>> prevents jelling, but also improves volatility a little.
>>>
>>> Charlie V.
>> To the best of my knowledge, in Canada anyway, the fuel oil you burn in
>> your furnace to heat the house is the same fuel that goes into the
>> diesel tractor and trucks. Only difference is the price.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
>>
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