[Farmall] 656 governor surging

[cvill at frontiernet.net]

I do not wish to muddy the water any, but I have a half a thought.  On 
my 560 gas, the owners manual cautions that the high speed mixture screw 
on the carburetor should be open a full five (5) turns to insure enough 
fuel supply under load.  Not sure if improper mixture would cause surge, 
but it seems it could contribute.

Best of luck,

Charlie V.


On 5/5/2011 8:59 AM, Barney Van De Weert wrote:
> The screw would be the one on the back close to the bottom. you can try turning
> it in a little at a time, you really can't mess anything up by turning it in. If
> you turn it in too far the engine probably won't idle down. I can't take any
> pictures- I no longer own the tractors, sold them when my Dad sold out 12 years
> ago. The setting that controls the max speed will make the problem worse if you
> increase the speed setting. That's why I suggest that you go over all the
> settings on the governor to make sure they are correct.
>   Barney Van De Weert
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> ________________________________
> From: Rupert<rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] 656 governor surging
>
> Hello Barney,
>      Thanks for your reply.
>      Do you mean the adjustment screw that sets the maximum the governor can
> open the throttle? Or, the fine thread bolt near the bottom on the back?
>      I only see one spring that goes between the bellcrank and the governor
> level on mine. If you have a digital camera, would you mind taking a
> picture showing the anti-surge spring on yours?
>
> Rupert
>
> On 5/4/2011 5:21 PM, Barney Van De Weert wrote:
>> Good Luck, I ad a 560 w/ the same problem. Adjustment is very critical. So I
>> would get a shop manual and go through the settings. Also there was a kit that
>> included a bumper spring that I installed on mine. This was supposed to reduce
>> surging, I never had much luck with it. I believe that the surge adjustment
>> should already be on yours- if you look at the back of the governor is there a
>> 1/4" bolt w/ a jam nut on it? you may be able to turn this in a little at a
>> time
>> to stop the surging
>>    Barney Van De Weert
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Rupert<rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 1:09:32 PM
>> Subject: [Farmall] 656 governor surging
>>
>> Hello Guys,
>>        I have a Farmall 656 tractor with a gas engine. I have been having a
>> problem with the governor surging specially when I first start the
>> tractor. The problem gets better after the the engine warms up but
>> doesn't go away completely. I seems to work ok at full throttle and at
>> idle. I thought it might be a good idea to ask before I tear into the
>> governor if there is something I should check first.
>>        I'm hoping the governor is simply sludged up but I guess parts could be
>> worn too.
>>        A little history on the tractor: I bought the tractor used a couple of
>> years ago. The engine oil was so black that I figure it haddened been
>> changed is a long time. I have flushed the engine since.
>>
>>        Any ideas or comments appreciated.
>>
>> Rupert
>>