[Farmall] 656 governor surging

[Rupert]

	Thanks Charlie. I will keep that in mind. I need to overhaul the carb 
anyway as the throttle bushings have more play than I like.

Rupert

On 5/5/2011 9:18 AM, cvill at frontiernet.net wrote:
> I do not wish to muddy the water any, but I have a half a thought.  On
> my 560 gas, the owners manual cautions that the high speed mixture screw
> on the carburetor should be open a full five (5) turns to insure enough
> fuel supply under load.  Not sure if improper mixture would cause surge,
> but it seems it could contribute.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Charlie V.
>
>
> On 5/5/2011 8:59 AM, Barney Van De Weert wrote:
>> The screw would be the one on the back close to the bottom. you can try turning
>> it in a little at a time, you really can't mess anything up by turning it in. If
>> you turn it in too far the engine probably won't idle down. I can't take any
>> pictures- I no longer own the tractors, sold them when my Dad sold out 12 years
>> ago. The setting that controls the max speed will make the problem worse if you
>> increase the speed setting. That's why I suggest that you go over all the
>> settings on the governor to make sure they are correct.
>>    Barney Van De Weert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rupert<rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:11:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] 656 governor surging
>>
>> Hello Barney,
>>       Thanks for your reply.
>>       Do you mean the adjustment screw that sets the maximum the governor can
>> open the throttle? Or, the fine thread bolt near the bottom on the back?
>>       I only see one spring that goes between the bellcrank and the governor
>> level on mine. If you have a digital camera, would you mind taking a
>> picture showing the anti-surge spring on yours?
>>
>> Rupert
>>
>> On 5/4/2011 5:21 PM, Barney Van De Weert wrote:
>>> Good Luck, I ad a 560 w/ the same problem. Adjustment is very critical. So I
>>> would get a shop manual and go through the settings. Also there was a kit that
>>> included a bumper spring that I installed on mine. This was supposed to reduce
>>> surging, I never had much luck with it. I believe that the surge adjustment
>>> should already be on yours- if you look at the back of the governor is there a
>>> 1/4" bolt w/ a jam nut on it? you may be able to turn this in a little at a
>>> time
>>> to stop the surging
>>>     Barney Van De Weert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Rupert<rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>>> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 1:09:32 PM
>>> Subject: [Farmall] 656 governor surging
>>>
>>> Hello Guys,
>>>         I have a Farmall 656 tractor with a gas engine. I have been having a
>>> problem with the governor surging specially when I first start the
>>> tractor. The problem gets better after the the engine warms up but
>>> doesn't go away completely. I seems to work ok at full throttle and at
>>> idle. I thought it might be a good idea to ask before I tear into the
>>> governor if there is something I should check first.
>>>         I'm hoping the governor is simply sludged up but I guess parts could be
>>> worn too.
>>>         A little history on the tractor: I bought the tractor used a couple of
>>> years ago. The engine oil was so black that I figure it haddened been
>>> changed is a long time. I have flushed the engine since.
>>>
>>>         Any ideas or comments appreciated.
>>>
>>> Rupert
>>>
>
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