[AT] Now: Baaken oil Was: OT Gas prices new all time high :-(

Dan Folske dfolske at nccray.net
Wed Mar 9 15:47:19 PST 2011


Bakken oil may be thick compared to some crude but compared to the stuff 
from the older wells around here it is almost like diesel fuel. They haul a 
lot of it north into Canada and mix it with the tar sands oil on the main 
pipeline coming back south. I live on the edge of the Bakken and all I get 
is the traffic, dust, more fires and traffic accidents to respond to and 
difficulty hiring employees
Dan

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:05 PM
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Subject: [AT] Now: Baaken oil Was: OT Gas prices new all time high :-(

Hi Ralph (and all)!
There is indeed a lot of interest in the Baaken over the last couple of 
years - new deposits being found under known existing pools mulitiplied 
known reserves in the US and have made for an explosion of leasing & 
drilling. Unemployment is really, really low in the area as a result.
Part of the problem in getting the stuff out is that it's locked up in the 
formations, and, to deal with this, hydraulic fracturing methods have been 
developed, some with more success than others.
Having invested in a couple of leaseholding operators (BEXP, NOG) that are 
actually getting respectable amounts out of the ground, I pay pretty close 
attention to this - turns out that the biggest chokepoint is not production 
but transportation of the oil to a refinery.
There is _one_ pipeline out of the area, that has a capacity of about 200k 
bbls per day; trucking & rail are the other options, both very expensive... 
( I've heard but not verified that the transport costs are in the range of 
$20/bbl!!) A new pipeline is being talked up / planned but with the 
permitting processes, etc, it'll be a while incoming - maybe, indeed, the 
$200/bbl day (:<))
Add to that that the oil is not light 'sweet' easily refineable stuff; think 
thick & gooey, which sells for considerably less... the prices you hear 
quoted everyday are for the best, lightest, most easily refineable stuff...
Like many seemly simple things, here's a lot of variables / complexities 
here, and of course, the usaual greed & 'gaming'!
Stay warm!
Dave, & Arlo & Ziggy the Puli's, in sunny Gilroy, 
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 00:39:07 -0600
From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: [AT] OT Gas prices new all time high :-(
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On 3/8/2011 11:42 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
> Ralph
> I was sent this link by a friend I have not read it completely, but it 
> tells
> me that the fuel prices are artifically high....  More politics than
> anything else...  Enough oil in the US to fuel the US for over a thousand
> years.  Bush ordered it extracted.
>
> http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
Cecil, interesting article and I have no doubt about the prices being
manipulated. Kind of the same way our canola in the bins changes in
price according to the markets. Nothing to do with what it cost us to
produce.
Recently listening to one of those late night U.S. talk shows they were
referring to the huge reserves in the Bakken field and that it would not
be coming out of the ground until the price hit $200 a barrel. About
double what it is now.

Ralph in Sask.



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