[AT] tires and tubes
Eddie Mccullough
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Thu Mar 24 18:51:49 PDT 2011
They are NOT all made in china...... you have to look and hunt and pay but this summer we put 3 chinese tubes in 1 tire in 1 week... put 1 that was not and its still up and has ran a good bit
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1. Re: tires with tubes (Gunnells, Bradley R)
2. Re: tires with tubes (Gene Dotson)
3. Re: tires with tubes (Spencer Yost)
4. Re: tires with tubes (Ralph Goff)
5. Re: tires with tubes (Grant Brians)
6. Re: tires with tubes (Sewell, Steven)
7. Re: tires with tubes (Charlie V)
8. Re: tires with tubes (Al Jones)
9. Re: tires with tubes (Larry Goss)
10. Edsel ranchero? (Ralph Goff)
11. Re: Edsel ranchero? (Rupert)
12. Re: Edsel ranchero? (Landen Schooler)
13. Re: Edsel ranchero? (Len Rugen)
14. Re: Edsel ranchero? (Dave Merchant)
15. Re: Edsel ranchero? (Ralph Goff)
16. Spam> Re: tires with tubes (Steve W.)
17. Re: Edsel ranchero? (John & Jan Paur)
18. Re: Edsel ranchero? (Ralph Goff)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:03:29 +0000
From: "Gunnells, Bradley R" <brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu>
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It's both funny and sad at the same time. Funny what people will use for an excuse to not do something. Sad in that when you needed something you weren't able to get it. Growing up in a small town and working in the service station I became used to working with tubes. Later I did a stint of 2nd job part time work (boys need money for they're toys!) at a service station in town here and every time a tube type tire came in during the evening/weekend hours it was left for me to do.
I tried to show the part-timers I worked with some tricks so they could do them but they had no interest in learning. It was easier to roll them off to the side and tell the customer to come back after my shift. Dad has an old manual tire changer and the spoons so I still do most of my own tire repairs on both vehicles and implements. Besides the satisfaction of doing things myself I cringe at the cost to have a repair shop fix a tire. Guess I'm cheap too. :-)
Brad
On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:02 PM, john hall wrote:
> I needed a couple 15 inch tubes for a hay wagon last Sat. After 10 phone calls it became quite evident that tires with tubes are quite rare these days. All the "real" tire shops were closed so I was stuck with major chainstores and service stations. I even tried Napa. The funny part was the "safety" reason the chain stores gave about not carrying and installing tubes.
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:41:30 -0400
From: "Gene Dotson" <gdotsly at watchtv.net>
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Brad;
I go along with you about doing my own tire work, and most of my other
work. I bought a cheap tire changer off ebay and have it bolted to the floor
in my shop. I can repair a punctured tube in half the time it takes to drive
to town.
I bought a set of tires for my truck from Wal Mart with the full service
warranty. Had 1 with a leaking valve stem and took it in to get replaced. It
was on the truck and I was on a hauling job. They said it would be a 4 hour
wait. Told them I would be back and to reserve my time. Not to be done that
way, I had to stay there and wait for them to get to me. Told the manager
to just give me the valve stem and I would change it myself. Took it home
and less than 15 minutes I had the new stem in and back on the truck. My
next tires will not be from Wal Mart.
Gene
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> It's both funny and sad at the same time. Funny what people will use for
> an excuse to not do something. Sad in that when you needed something you
> weren't able to get it. Growing up in a small town and working in the
> service station I became used to working with tubes. Later I did a stint
> of 2nd job part time work (boys need money for they're toys!) at a service
> station in town here and every time a tube type tire came in during the
> evening/weekend hours it was left for me to do.
>
> I tried to show the part-timers I worked with some tricks so they could do
> them but they had no interest in learning. It was easier to roll them off
> to the side and tell the customer to come back after my shift. Dad has an
> old manual tire changer and the spoons so I still do most of my own tire
> repairs on both vehicles and implements. Besides the satisfaction of doing
> things myself I cringe at the cost to have a repair shop fix a tire. Guess
> I'm cheap too. :-)
>
> Brad
>
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:02 PM, john hall wrote:
>
>> I needed a couple 15 inch tubes for a hay wagon last Sat. After 10 phone
>> calls it became quite evident that tires with tubes are quite rare these
>> days. All the "real" tire shops were closed so I was stuck with major
>> chainstores and service stations. I even tried Napa. The funny part was
>> the "safety" reason the chain stores gave about not carrying and
>> installing tubes.
>>
>> John Hall
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:49:13 -0400
From: Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>
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I guess I have it pretty good in NC. Even If the tube is unusual I can get it at my local (and locally owned) tire store. If not, it can be ordered and usually have it the next day if I order early enough. I had a very old hay rake with a really weird size. That one took a few days. Installation is available, reasonable and the help is competent, even if they are young. They are open Saturdays too.
For tubes I find that T.S. is about useless. They are cheap and don't last if you can even find it.
Spencer
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:37:45 -0600
From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
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On 3/23/2011 12:49 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> I guess I have it pretty good in NC. Even If the tube is unusual I can get it at my local (and locally owned) tire store. If not, it can be ordered and usually have it the next day if I order early enough. I had a very old hay rake with a really weird size. That one took a few days. Installation is available, reasonable and the help is competent, even if they are young. They are open Saturdays too.
>
> For tubes I find that T.S. is about useless. They are cheap and don't last if you can even find it.
>
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I"ve been wondering if the newer rubber is not as good quality. Seems
some of the new tubes will separate at the seam. Years ago we used to
see old inner tubes with numerous patches from many years ago. Did they
really last longer? Vulcanising I think they called the method of
patching tubes in the tire repair shop. It was a superior method of
patching tubes compared to the home handy man kit with glue and the peel
off patches although they worked not bad considering.
Ralph in Sask.
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:57:17 -0800
From: "Grant Brians" <sales at heirloom-organic.com>
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I agree with all Spencer said about tube availability. In answer to your
query, Ralph, I think that you will notice that there are several different
sources of tubes. Most of the tubes available are from China now and are
"no-Name" or Hercules brand. Hercules makes lower durability tires than
nearly all of the other makers that sell in North America and are in my
experience with Truck tires always the cheapest. However, i have seen that
their tires seem to only get about 60% the life of Sumitomo, Firestone,
Hankook and other typical brands. Michelin is the longest lasting on truck
tires, but I do not buy their tires as the price is so high that they cost
almost as much per mile as the Hercules!
Returning to tubes specifically, I have purchased Chinese when they
are the only ones available or in a pinch, but when possible I get the
Firestone (really Bridgestone now) or Titan tubes as they are actually more
durable. Our Tractor tires all have tubes naturally and I have seen that we
do occasionally need to replace or patch them. Usually on our heavy use
tractors, the tubes get replaced when the tires do, but sometimes there are
punctures....
Grant Brians
Hollister,California Organic Vegetable, Fruit and Nut Producer
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On 3/23/2011 12:49 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> I guess I have it pretty good in NC. Even If the tube is unusual I can
get it at my local (and locally owned) tire store. If not, it can be
ordered and usually have it the next day if I order early enough. I had a
very old hay rake with a really weird size. That one took a few days.
Installation is available, reasonable and the help is competent, even if
they are young. They are open Saturdays too.
>
> For tubes I find that T.S. is about useless. They are cheap and don't
last if you can even find it.
>
> Spencer
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I"ve been wondering if the newer rubber is not as good quality. Seems
some of the new tubes will separate at the seam. Years ago we used to
see old inner tubes with numerous patches from many years ago. Did they
really last longer? Vulcanising I think they called the method of
patching tubes in the tire repair shop. It was a superior method of
patching tubes compared to the home handy man kit with glue and the peel
off patches although they worked not bad considering.
Ralph in Sask.
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:12:45 -0400
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Returning to tubes specifically, I have purchased Chinese when they
are the only ones available or in a pinch, but when possible I get the
Firestone (really Bridgestone now) or Titan tubes as they are actually more
durable.ures....
Grant Brians
Hollister,California Organic Vegetable, Fruit and Nut Producer
<
The last tractor tubes I bought was a month ago. Said "Firestone" on the top of the label - made in China on the bottom in small print.
-steve
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:49:35 -0400
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The last tractor tubes I bought was a month ago. Said "Firestone"
on the top of the label - made in China on the bottom in small print.
-steve
And therein lies the silliness of the e-mails friends send me about
every third day advising we buy American made products to keep jobs
in the US. Most lifelong brand names carry that same small "Made in
China" print. Oh, but I forgot. It is distributed by XYZ company in
Hoboken NJ. Maybe that is part of the lure for the tractors which we
collect. They were proudly made in U.S.A. If someone wants a
domestic product today, best to head out to the shop or garage and
start building.
One of my favorite rants. Sorry.
Charlie V.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Sewell, Steven <sewell at ohio.edu> wrote:
> <
> ? ? ?Returning to tubes specifically, I have purchased Chinese when they
> are the only ones available or in a pinch, but when possible I get the
> Firestone (really Bridgestone now) or Titan tubes as they are actually more
> durable.ures....
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Grant Brians
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hollister,California Organic Vegetable, Fruit and Nut Producer
>
> <
>
> The last tractor tubes I bought was a month ago. ? ?Said "Firestone" on the top of the label - made in China on the bottom in small print.
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:20:20 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
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I agree. Our local tire shop is top-notch and knows how to work on everything from a wheel barrow tire to a BIG tractor tire. I remember I was looking for some tires for my trailer. Said something about not wanting anything made in China. His reply was "they ALL are."
As far as tubes go, I don't want a farm tire without one. If you get in a tight and the tire goes REAL slack, you can limp a ways with it. A tubeless tire will come off the rim. That said, my dad's year-old 7130 JD has radials all the way around, and they are tubeless.
Al
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>
>On 3/23/2011 12:49 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> I guess I have it pretty good in NC. Even If the tube is unusual I can get it at my local (and locally owned) tire store. If not, it can be ordered and usually have it the next day if I order early enough. I had a very old hay rake with a really weird size. That one took a few days. Installation is available, reasonable and the help is competent, even if they are young. They are open Saturdays too.
>>
>> For tubes I find that T.S. is about useless. They are cheap and don't last if you can even find it.
>>
>> Spencer
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:37:46 -0500
From: Larry Goss <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
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There's a second verse to the "tubeless song", Al.? One of the penny-pinching techniques done by current lawn mower manufacturers is to ship them out to the public with tubeless tires on them -- and no bead sealer.? So whenever a customer comes in with a flat tire on their lawnmower, I break the bead, coat it with bead sealer, and then re-inflate it.? It takes a little more time than just putting air into a flat, but it keeps customers from coming back with the same problem that they had when they started.? And , you never use Slime unless you own locust trees.
Today, I got a year-old tractor-style mower into the shop and had to do the "make ready" service on it that SHOULD have been done last year at the Big Box store where the mower was purchased.? So much for the quality of our high school graduates.? The steering wheel came off in my hands, the hood wasn't hooked correctly at the front, the control handles were barely installed......
Larry
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Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 20:17
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> I agree.? Our local tire shop is top-notch and knows how to
> work on everything from a wheel barrow tire to a BIG tractor
> tire.? I remember I was looking for some tires for my
> trailer.? Said something about not wanting anything made in
> China.? His reply was "they ALL are."
>
> As far as tubes go, I don't want a farm tire without one.?
> If you get in a tight and the tire goes REAL slack, you can limp
> a ways with it.? A tubeless tire will come off the
> rim.? That said, my dad's year-old 7130 JD has radials all
> the way around, and they are tubeless.
>
>
> Al
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
> >Sent: Mar 23, 2011 3:37 PM
> >To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-
> tractor.com>>Subject: Re: [AT] tires with tubes
> >
> >On 3/23/2011 12:49 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> >> I guess I have it pretty good in NC.? Even If the tube
> is unusual I can get it at my local (and locally owned) tire
> store.? If not, it can be ordered and usually have it the
> next day if I order early enough.?? I had a very old
> hay rake with a really weird size.?? That one took a
> few days.? Installation is available, reasonable and the
> help is competent, even if they are young.? They are open
> Saturdays? too.
> >>
> >> For tubes I find that T.S. is about useless.?? They
> are cheap and don't last if you can even find it.
> >>
> >> Spencer
> >>
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:27:43 -0600
From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
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This is totally off topic regarding tractors but I wondered if there are
any old Ford experts out there who might know. Did Ford ever produce a
Ranchero version of the Edsel? There is one advertised for sale here on
kijiji and thats what it appears to be.
http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=269366780&ImageIndex=8
Ralph in Sask.
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:01:33 -0600
From: Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
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Hello Ralph,
The story about the Ranchero Edsel is here
<http://www.machine-whisperer.com/personal/EdRan.htm>. Looks like the
'58 is probably one of a kind.
Rupert
On 3/23/2011 8:27 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> This is totally off topic regarding tractors but I wondered if there are
> any old Ford experts out there who might know. Did Ford ever produce a
> Ranchero version of the Edsel? There is one advertised for sale here on
> kijiji and thats what it appears to be.
> http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=269366780&ImageIndex=8
>
> Ralph in Sask.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:05:25 +0000
From: "Landen Schooler" <skoullar at ix.netcom.com>
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Ford did not make a Ranchero Edsel. Someone crossed a 1958 Edsel wagon and a Ranchero.
Landen Schooler
Sent from my tractor, in my cornfield.
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Subject: [AT] Edsel ranchero?
This is totally off topic regarding tractors but I wondered if there are
any old Ford experts out there who might know. Did Ford ever produce a
Ranchero version of the Edsel? There is one advertised for sale here on
kijiji and thats what it appears to be.
http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=269366780&ImageIndex=8
Ralph in Sask.
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:12:47 -0500
From: Len Rugen <rugenl at yahoo.com>
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See http://www.machine-whisperer.com/personal/EdRan.htm
On 3/23/2011 9:27 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> This is totally off topic regarding tractors but I wondered if there are
> any old Ford experts out there who might know. Did Ford ever produce a
> Ranchero version of the Edsel? There is one advertised for sale here on
> kijiji and thats what it appears to be.
> http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=269366780&ImageIndex=8
>
> Ralph in Sask.
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:39:26 -0400
From: Dave Merchant <kosh at ncweb.com>
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Not according to this guy.
http://www.edselmotors.com/faq.html
Remember car models had/have a lot of body part commonality,
so swaps were relatively easy.
Scroll down..."Edchero"
http://www.edsel.com/pages/custom.htm
I learned to drive in a '58 Ranger 3 on the tree.
Dave Merchant
At 10:27 PM 3/23/2011, you wrote:
>This is totally off topic regarding tractors but I wondered if there are
>any old Ford experts out there who might know. Did Ford ever produce a
>Ranchero version of the Edsel? There is one advertised for sale here on
>kijiji and thats what it appears to be.
>http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=269366780&ImageIndex=8
>
>Ralph in Sask.
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:41:02 -0600
From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
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On 3/23/2011 9:01 PM, Rupert wrote:
> Hello Ralph,
> The story about the Ranchero Edsel is here
> <http://www.machine-whisperer.com/personal/EdRan.htm>. Looks like the
> '58 is probably one of a kind.
>
> Rupert
Thanks Rupert, and Len. That was an interesting article and nicely done
conversion. I kind of suspected that it would have to be a custom job.
Ralph in Sask.
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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 00:53:13 -0400
From: "Steve W." <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
Subject: [AT] Spam> Re: tires with tubes
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Larry Goss wrote:
> There's a second verse to the "tubeless song", Al. One of the
> penny-pinching techniques done by current lawn mower manufacturers is
> to ship them out to the public with tubeless tires on them -- and no
> bead sealer. So whenever a customer comes in with a flat tire on
> their lawnmower, I break the bead, coat it with bead sealer, and then
> re-inflate it. It takes a little more time than just putting air
> into a flat, but it keeps customers from coming back with the same
> problem that they had when they started. And , you never use Slime
> unless you own locust trees.
>
> Today, I got a year-old tractor-style mower into the shop and had to
> do the "make ready" service on it that SHOULD have been done last
> year at the Big Box store where the mower was purchased. So much for
> the quality of our high school graduates. The steering wheel came
> off in my hands, the hood wasn't hooked correctly at the front, the
> control handles were barely installed......
>
> Larry
I got REALLY fed up a couple years ago when I kept finding nails, screws
and assorted sharp things with the tires on my main mower. Finally made
some major changes. I took a pair of older tires and cut the tread
portion off about 1 inch up the sidewalls. Ground the sidewalls so they
had a tapered edge. Cut a small section out so they would just fit
inside the new tires. Stuck one side of the tire on the rim then coated
to liner with rubber cement and stuck it in place, then stuck a cheap
tube in and slid the other bead on and inflated to just a bit over
normal pressure. Then waited for them to cure. Let out the air and
loaded the tube with slime and aired back up. Now I don't worry much and
haven't had a flat even after pulling a few more sharp objects out of
the tires. One of the BIG problems with having a place that was built on
top of a foundation where the home burnt down and they just skimmed it
with dirt....
--
Steve W.
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:01:50 -0700
From: "John & Jan Paur" <johnjanpaur2 at directcon.net>
Subject: Re: [AT] Edsel ranchero?
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I remember those kind of days growing up in Minn. John
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> Not according to this guy.
>
> http://www.edselmotors.com/faq.html
>
> Remember car models had/have a lot of body part commonality,
> so swaps were relatively easy.
>
> Scroll down..."Edchero"
> http://www.edsel.com/pages/custom.htm
>
> I learned to drive in a '58 Ranger 3 on the tree.
>
> Dave Merchant
>
>
> At 10:27 PM 3/23/2011, you wrote:
>>This is totally off topic regarding tractors but I wondered if there are
>>any old Ford experts out there who might know. Did Ford ever produce a
>>Ranchero version of the Edsel? There is one advertised for sale here on
>>kijiji and thats what it appears to be.
>>http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=269366780&ImageIndex=8
>>
>>Ralph in Sask.
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> Dave Merchant
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:31:00 -0600
From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
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On 3/24/2011 9:01 AM, John & Jan Paur wrote:
> I remember those kind of days growing up in Minn. John
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
Its true John, farm built pickups are nothing new. It was quite a trend
in the sixties and seventies to take the old retired family sedan, cut
the roof back to the drivers seat, install a sheet of plywood, weld the
rear doors shut and there was your "pickup truck". Or as we called them,
"cut down cars". There were some that were quite well done looking
almost as good as the factory built Ranchero/Elcamino.
I kind of regret not picking up this one I saw at a farm auction about 4
years ago. It was a 56 Chev sedan converted to an early El Camino
pickup. Chev never built them until 59. I see that Australia was big on
"Utes", car based pickups. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9_utility
That 53 Holden is absolutely beautiful.
Anyway, heres all I have to show of the 56 Chev at the auction sale.
Hope it didn't go to the crusher.
http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/142_165/29_157/auction56Chev-vi.jpg
Ralph in Sask.
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