[Farmall] insider info.

[john hall]

I can't remember who was studying the others tractor, but I remember seeing 
a book once where either IH had a John Deere H or Deere had a F-12. Of 
course that still goes on today. I've got all the old Remington and Mall 
chainsaw literature from where dad worked. While looking through it one day 
I found some Homelite and McCullough stuff----they never sold either, just 
gathering information to compete against them with.

John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] insider info.


>
>
> John have you ever seen the "Operation Takeover" literature from the 
> 444/656/756/856 timeframe?  They compare and contrast every tractor in 
> their respective size range, mainly Deere, MF, AC, Ford, and Oliver with 
> the comparable IH tractor.  Pretty intersting stuff and I will admit in 
> some cases it looked like IH was 'grasping at straws' a little bit!
>
> According to the data though, JD added over 5,000 lbs of extra weight to 
> their 4020 tested at Nebraska.  This was the only way their numbers are 
> anywhere close to the 856.  A 4020 and a 756 is almost a more fair 
> comparison, weight wise.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: john hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>>Sent: Mar 13, 2011 3:36 PM
>>To: Farmall/IHC mailing list <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Subject: [Farmall] insider info.
>>
>>I imagine every major manufacturer is always spying to see what the 
>>competition is up to. Last night I found out to what extreme IH went to 
>>against John Deere. While sorting through a bunch of literature left over 
>>from the IH dealer dad retired from, we found a "training" manual for 
>>salesmen. I briefly looked at it and found some memos IH had sent to 
>>dealers in the mid/late 70's. The first was about a price increase Deere 
>>was having on combines and corn headers. Included in the memo was Deere's 
>>dealer pricing. I found another for tractors that showed pricing, but with 
>>it broken down into $ per hp. Also there was a note about Deere increasing 
>>rear axle size. I couldn't help but laugh at this one. IH pointed out that 
>>their axles were still bigger---a gigantic 1/16 of an inch.
>>
>>John Hall
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