[AT] Talking about shops/sheds

[Larry Goss]

DON'T GET ME STARTED, Charlie.  I'm not exactly a wholehearted enthusiast of the current emphasis on collaboration on group projects when it comes to creativity.  I could rant about this topic for hours..

Larry
 

----- Original Message -----
From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011 6:39
Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>

> Larry that reminds me of the story about the kid that was 
> excitedly telling 
> his dad about some new invention.  His dad didn't seem 
> appropriately 
> impressed and the kid asked him, "don’t you think that is 
> amazing?".  The 
> old guy looked up and said son did a committee design that 
> thing?  The boy, 
> still excited, said NO DAD, JUST ONE MAN.  HE FIGURED IT 
> OUT ALL BY HIMSELF. 
> The old man said, no son, I'm not amazed.  Now if you had 
> told me a 
> committee built it I would have truly been amazed.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Larry Goss
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 10:14 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds
> 
> You understand completely, Ralph.  REALLY completely!  
> It's the most 
> frustrating thing you can imagine.  The old tubes were 
> efficient, just not 
> as efficient as someone wanted us to be.  So we've got to 
> go through and 
> change out everything.  When I changed the incandescent 
> emergency exit 
> lights at the church over to CFL's, I did the calculation on 
> power savings 
> alone and found that we amortized the complete cost of the 
> changeover in 
> less than one year.  But the congregation doesn't 
> understand the full 
> meaning of what I say when I tell them that the infrastructure 
> of the church 
> isn't worth our efforts to save it.  None of it was built 
> to code.  Even 
> though it is only around 50 years old, everything has to be 
> replaced -- all 
> the plumbing, electrical, HVAC, septic, parking lot paving, 
> outdoor 
> drainage, concrete floor, single glazed windows with steel 
> casement 
> rames,  --- everything.  The sound system stopped 
> working about a dozen 
> years ago because the insulation rotted off the copper wires of 
> the 70 volt 
> audio output.  It's all in steel electrical conduit, so it 
> shorts out very 
> easily.  But it's NOT just a job for pulling out the old 
> wire and pulling in 
> new.  All the original conduit was undersized, and you 
> can't pull anything 
> out to replace it because the new stuff is larger in diameter 
> and won't even 
> fit the existing space.  It's a good example for why 
> nothing should ever be 
> left up to a committee.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
> Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011 20:40
> Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-
> tractor.com>
> > On 3/5/2011 6:39 PM, Larry Goss wrote:
> > > T-12's are the flourescent bulbs that have been around since
> > Day One -- 1 1/2 inches in diameter (around 36 mm).  They
> > stopped making them in July 2010.  The newer T-8 bulb (1-
> > inch or 25 mm in diameter) uses a lot less electricity (32 watts
> > compared to 40) and actually puts out more light.  I think
> > the bulb is "plug-compatible" but the ballast is designed 
> differently.> >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > Well that is news to me. And not good news. Seems not that many
> > years
> > ago that we replaced most of the incandescent light fixtures in
> > the
> > house with flourescents. The four foot ones . They were supposed
> > to be
> > more efficient than incandescents.
> > Latest I hear is that maybe incandescent bulbs are
> > being phased out in
> > favour of compact flourescent bulbs which are supposed to be
> > even more
> > efficient.
> > Only problem is that they contain mercury and disposal of the
> > used
> > compacts is now a problem.
> > Solve one problem and another one seems to replace it.
> >
> > Ralph in Sask.
> >
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