[AT] Talking about shops/sheds

[charlie hill]

Larry that reminds me of the story about the kid that was excitedly telling 
his dad about some new invention.  His dad didn't seem appropriately 
impressed and the kid asked him, "don’t you think that is amazing?".  The 
old guy looked up and said son did a committee design that thing?  The boy, 
still excited, said NO DAD, JUST ONE MAN.  HE FIGURED IT OUT ALL BY HIMSELF. 
The old man said, no son, I'm not amazed.  Now if you had told me a 
committee built it I would have truly been amazed.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Goss
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 10:14 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds

You understand completely, Ralph.  REALLY completely!  It's the most 
frustrating thing you can imagine.  The old tubes were efficient, just not 
as efficient as someone wanted us to be.  So we've got to go through and 
change out everything.  When I changed the incandescent emergency exit 
lights at the church over to CFL's, I did the calculation on power savings 
alone and found that we amortized the complete cost of the changeover in 
less than one year.  But the congregation doesn't understand the full 
meaning of what I say when I tell them that the infrastructure of the church 
isn't worth our efforts to save it.  None of it was built to code.  Even 
though it is only around 50 years old, everything has to be replaced -- all 
the plumbing, electrical, HVAC, septic, parking lot paving, outdoor 
drainage, concrete floor, single glazed windows with steel casement 
rames,  --- everything.  The sound system stopped working about a dozen 
years ago because the insulation rotted off the copper wires of the 70 volt 
audio output.  It's all in steel electrical conduit, so it shorts out very 
easily.  But it's NOT just a job for pulling out the old wire and pulling in 
new.  All the original conduit was undersized, and you can't pull anything 
out to replace it because the new stuff is larger in diameter and won't even 
fit the existing space.  It's a good example for why nothing should ever be 
left up to a committee.

Larry


----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011 20:40
Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>

> On 3/5/2011 6:39 PM, Larry Goss wrote:
> > T-12's are the flourescent bulbs that have been around since
> Day One -- 1 1/2 inches in diameter (around 36 mm).  They
> stopped making them in July 2010.  The newer T-8 bulb (1-
> inch or 25 mm in diameter) uses a lot less electricity (32 watts
> compared to 40) and actually puts out more light.  I think
> the bulb is "plug-compatible" but the ballast is designed differently.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> Well that is news to me. And not good news. Seems not that many
> years
> ago that we replaced most of the incandescent light fixtures in
> the
> house with flourescents. The four foot ones . They were supposed
> to be
> more efficient than incandescents.
> Latest I hear is that maybe incandescent bulbs are
> being phased out in
> favour of compact flourescent bulbs which are supposed to be
> even more
> efficient.
> Only problem is that they contain mercury and disposal of the
> used
> compacts is now a problem.
> Solve one problem and another one seems to replace it.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
>
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