[Farmall] [AT] A Few Questions: Mufflers

Paul Bazzetta bazzetta at execpc.com
Wed Jul 6 10:04:53 PDT 2011 

I have some old exhaust lift parts in storage. a cylinder or two and some pulleys and maybe a box of old valves and pull knobs.  All well used.  I have no idea what they are worth. If anyone is interested in them, drop me a line and I'd be willing to go take photos and exchange info.

Paul
bazzetta at execpc(dot)com


On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:

> Thanks!  The manual is for exactly the same model I've got.
> 
> Here's another link to what looks like the same manual from another website
> in PDF:
> 
> http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1917631/pneumatic-lift-all-pdf-may-18-2010-4-33-am-605k?da=y
> 
> From: http://farmall.winnfreenet.com/downloads.php
> 
> Ben Wagner
> 
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM, E. John Puckett
> <ejpuckett at centurytel.net>wrote:
> 
>> I do not own anything with an exhaust lift, but here is a link to a
>> manual for one.  It may not be the same model you have though.
>> http://home.centurytel.net/ejpuckett/exhaust%20lift/
>> 
>> On 7/6/2011 7:49 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
>>> You are probably right; the Stanley may not be original.  I have heard
>>> somewhere along the way that Stanley made IH Mufflers, but I can't find
>>> where.  I've got the book here that claims Hayes or Mackensie made the
>> Super
>>> Series mufflers, but it doesn't mention what the Letter Series used.  I
>>> would think the original muffler would be on this tractor, since the
>> tractor
>>> is original in all parts; I also think the original owner purchased the
>>> muffler option with the tractor, since he could spend the money for an
>>> exhaust lift.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know how many of those "Lift All" exhaust lifts for the
>> Farmall
>>> B and A were made?  How many exist in working condition today?  Speak up
>> if
>>> you have one; I'd enjoy hearing from other owners.
>>> 
>>> Ben Wagner
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Darrell Ratliff<dbigdog at columbus.rr.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The Stanley is likely not an original muffler.  It would have had an IH
>>>> embossed on it somewhere.  Seeing no baffles is normal.  Most tractor
>>>> mufflers don't have them.
>>>> 
>>>> From: Ben Wagner
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:57 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] A Few Questions: Mufflers
>>>> 
>>>> I took the muffler off to take a look, and I can shine a light in at one
>>>> end.  Looking in from the other end, I see no baffles.  I take it this
>>>> muffler is the equivalent of straight pipe exhaust!  This old muffler
>> was
>>>> made presumably with the tractor, since it is a Stanley.
>>>> 
>>>> I look up in the muffler, and I see little fingers about 1/2 inch long
>> all
>>>> the way up.  Is this the way the Stanley mufflers were made, without
>>>> baffles?
>>>> 
>>>> Ben Wagner
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mike Sloane<mikesloane at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know much about Farmall A tractors, but there are muffler, and
>>>>> there are mufflers - some of the ones sold today are nothing but tin
>>>>> cans with pipes on both ends, while others have proper baffles that (if
>>>>> correctly arranged) do a pretty good job of quieting engine sound. If
>>>>> you have an OEM muffler that sounds loud, it may be that the baffles
>>>>> have simply eroded to nothing over the last 65 years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as the surging, that suggests attention needs to be paid to the
>>>>> governor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the clutch adjustment and other similar issues, I always recommend
>>>>> that you go to Binder Books<www.binderbooks.com>  and obtain a service
>>>>> manual for the tractor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/5/2011 9:52 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've got a few questions concerning my 1945 Farmall A.  I just started
>>>>>> it
>>>>> up
>>>>>> for the first time in four months yesterday after a paint job.  I'll
>>>>> number
>>>>>> the questions so that they are easier to reference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.  The tractor runs fabulously.  It starts right up, even after
>>>> sitting
>>>>> for
>>>>>> four months, and is the most dependable engine I could want in an old
>>>>>> tractor.  My only objection is that the engine surges whenever I
>> adjust
>>>>> the
>>>>>> throttle, unless I slowly creep the throttle up or down.  The surging
>>>>> stops
>>>>>> if I slow the engine down.  My other tractor, the 1948 Super A, will
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> surge but only when the choke is not adjusted at exactly 1/2 choke.
>>>>  The
>>>>>> 1945 A will not run well unless the choke is completely open.  Because
>>>>> the
>>>>>> engine on the 1945 A runs so well, I hesitate to do any adjustments on
>>>>> the
>>>>>> carb.  Does anyone have any advice?  I can live with the surging, even
>>>>>> though it is a little irritating, but I would like to be able to
>>>> advance
>>>>> the
>>>>>> throttle without the concern of the surging.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2.  I used the tractor this winter before a paint job for snow
>> removal.
>>>>>  I
>>>>>> remember thinking that the engine sounded incredibly loud.  Yesterday,
>>>> I
>>>>> had
>>>>>> both tractors out, and the 1945 engine sounds much louder than the
>> 1948
>>>>>> Super A.  I'm wondering if the muffler is working, since the muffler
>> is
>>>>>> original "Stanley" vintage.  Is there any way to clean the soot out of
>>>>> the
>>>>>> muffler, without taking it to a muffler shop?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the other hand, if the muffler is fine, which is something I may
>>>> test
>>>>>> soon with my other tractor, what would make the engine sound like a
>> two
>>>>>> cylinder?  It has a distinctive "putt-putt" versus the smoothness of
>>>> the
>>>>>> Super A, although the Super A is not as good an engine.  Like I
>>>>> mentioned, I
>>>>>> really don't want to mess with the engine since it runs so well.  I'm
>>>>>> halfway wondering if the modern ethanol gasoline is part of the
>>>> problem!
>>>>>> But then again, the muffler could not be working, causing me to hear
>>>> the
>>>>>> pure engine firing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3.  This question is for anyone who has adjusted, or knows how to
>>>>>> adjust,
>>>>> a
>>>>>> Farmall A, B, or C series clutch.  The clutch only begins grabbing
>> when
>>>>> the
>>>>>> pedal is about 1/2 to 1 inch from being completely up.  There is no
>>>>>> freeplay.  How can I adjust the clutch to give me a little freeplay
>> and
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> longer engagement travel?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ben Wagner
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