[AT] Hot vs. cold Spark Plugs and a different perspective

Grant Brians sales at heirloom-organic.com
Fri Jul 15 09:59:52 PDT 2011


Larry's statement about the D16 for a hard working engine is the reason why
I have D16's in all of my Oliver tractors - we work the tractors as part of
the business - no idling along in a parade or driving from the backyard to
the front.... So all of the discussion around hot plugs on the list right
now is merely theoretical for me! LOL.
     We use gasoline tractors for cultivation, pulling trailers, harrowing
and many other applications. We also use diesel tractors. In reality, for us
we find that both are useful and function the way we assign them.
              Grant Brians
              Hollister,California vegetable, nuts and fruit farmer

-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Larry Goss
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:25 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] More engine issues


IMHO, the D16 is too cold of a plug to use in an engine that isn't being
worked pretty hard on a regular basis.  That's the plug that is recommended
for my restored "trailer queen" that doesn't get any more work than driving
in a Parade of Power.  The plugs would carbon up while idling, so I changed
to D21 and no longer have the problem.

Larry


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Wagner" <supera1948 at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Cc: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] More engine issues

Thanks to everyone for their input.   I'll certainly try the D21 spark
plugs, since I do have Autolite plugs in the tractor right now.  Like you
said, it's cheap enough to try.

I was leaning towards a fuel line/carb issue, except that I have just
recently rebuilt the carb.  I may try a good cleaning today, with new spark
plugs, and see what happens.

Ben Wagner

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Dan Glass <dglass at numail.org> wrote:

> I know this is kind of an odd thing, but I have had two farmall A's that
> did the same thing.  The solution in both cases were spark plugs other
> than Champion D21's.  I have friend whose Farmall 130 got stranded in
> the field and he told me that it wouldn't pull its own weight in first
> gear and he said he was going to have to overhaul the engine.  I told
> him about the Champion plugs and he said I was crazy.  I told him I had
> a set in the garage and I would install them just for grins and if it
> didn't help then he hasn't lost anything.  I put in the new set and
> drove it back to the barn in third gear.  He is a believer now.  I
> bought a "wore out" cub lowboy that wouldn't even pull itself up on the
> trailer.  When I was looking it over I noticed it had autolite plugs, I
> pulled them out and put in the champion d21's and I have been using it
> for about 12 years.  Of course, its not the answer to everything but its
> a cheap enough try to check it out.
>
> On 7/13/2011 4:52 PM, Ben Wagner wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > My 1945 Farmall A has recently had a coat of paint, and I started it up
> > again about a week ago.  It was running great when I was using it this
> > winter.  The day I started it up, it stalled when I tried 1st gear down
a
> > hill.  I assumed it was because I hadn't run it in about a month, and
> after
> > I ran it for a few minutes it seemed to work fine.
> >
> > Today, I had it out and was running it for almost a quarter of an hour.
> > Everything was working fine, until I tried road gear.  It stalled again
> > going up a slight hill, and I could barely limp it back in 1st.  It has
> now
> > no power.  It runs fine with no load, but as soon as I try to drive it,
> the
> > engine skips and gasps.  Pulling the choke out even slightly nearly
kills
> > it.  I can cut off the engine, and start it back up with no trouble.
But
> as
> > soon as I try to move the tractor, the engine acts like the end is near.
> > I've got plenty of clean fuel in the tank, the gas is on, and the choke
> is
> > all the way in.
> >
> > I hope this makes sense, but feel free to ask me to clarify anything
> unclear
> > as to the circumstances.  Do you have any ideas?
> >
> > Ben Wagner
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