[Farmall] [AT] A Few Questions now Farmall Exhaust Lifts

Craig Warner craig.warner47346 at frontier.com
Wed Jul 6 17:57:13 PDT 2011 

I have a 1944 Farmall B with the exhaust lift and cultivators. I've toyed 
with the idea of hooking up the exhaust lift and I have all of the parts but 
the hose. Is there any particular type of hose/fitting that should be used 
to hook this up? Given the heat etc., I wasn't sure what type of hose to 
use. Would a hydraulic hose work?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Wagner" <supera1948 at gmail.com>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] [AT] A Few Questions now Farmall Exhaust Lifts


> Some parts will be worth significantly more than others.  I know, because 
> I
> tried to find a few parts for my project and came up empty handed.  I 
> could
> find the leather seal (Case Original Parts) and the gaskets, but nothing
> else except at salvage yards.  Some parts I had to make.
>
> Ben Wagner
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Paul Bazzetta <bazzetta at execpc.com> wrote:
>
>> I have some old exhaust lift parts in storage. a cylinder or two and some
>> pulleys and maybe a box of old valves and pull knobs.  All well used.  I
>> have no idea what they are worth. If anyone is interested in them, drop 
>> me a
>> line and I'd be willing to go take photos and exchange info.
>>
>> Paul
>> bazzetta at execpc(dot)com
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks!  The manual is for exactly the same model I've got.
>> >
>> > Here's another link to what looks like the same manual from another
>> website
>> > in PDF:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1917631/pneumatic-lift-all-pdf-may-18-2010-4-33-am-605k?da=y
>> >
>> > From: http://farmall.winnfreenet.com/downloads.php
>> >
>> > Ben Wagner
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM, E. John Puckett
>> > <ejpuckett at centurytel.net>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do not own anything with an exhaust lift, but here is a link to a
>> >> manual for one.  It may not be the same model you have though.
>> >> http://home.centurytel.net/ejpuckett/exhaust%20lift/
>> >>
>> >> On 7/6/2011 7:49 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
>> >>> You are probably right; the Stanley may not be original.  I have 
>> >>> heard
>> >>> somewhere along the way that Stanley made IH Mufflers, but I can't 
>> >>> find
>> >>> where.  I've got the book here that claims Hayes or Mackensie made 
>> >>> the
>> >> Super
>> >>> Series mufflers, but it doesn't mention what the Letter Series used. 
>> >>> I
>> >>> would think the original muffler would be on this tractor, since the
>> >> tractor
>> >>> is original in all parts; I also think the original owner purchased 
>> >>> the
>> >>> muffler option with the tractor, since he could spend the money for 
>> >>> an
>> >>> exhaust lift.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone know how many of those "Lift All" exhaust lifts for the
>> >> Farmall
>> >>> B and A were made?  How many exist in working condition today?  Speak
>> up
>> >> if
>> >>> you have one; I'd enjoy hearing from other owners.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ben Wagner
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Darrell Ratliff<
>> dbigdog at columbus.rr.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The Stanley is likely not an original muffler.  It would have had an
>> IH
>> >>>> embossed on it somewhere.  Seeing no baffles is normal.  Most 
>> >>>> tractor
>> >>>> mufflers don't have them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From: Ben Wagner
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:57 PM
>> >>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AT] A Few Questions: Mufflers
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I took the muffler off to take a look, and I can shine a light in at
>> one
>> >>>> end.  Looking in from the other end, I see no baffles.  I take it 
>> >>>> this
>> >>>> muffler is the equivalent of straight pipe exhaust!  This old 
>> >>>> muffler
>> >> was
>> >>>> made presumably with the tractor, since it is a Stanley.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I look up in the muffler, and I see little fingers about 1/2 inch 
>> >>>> long
>> >> all
>> >>>> the way up.  Is this the way the Stanley mufflers were made, without
>> >>>> baffles?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ben Wagner
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mike Sloane<mikesloane at verizon.net>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I don't know much about Farmall A tractors, but there are muffler,
>> and
>> >>>>> there are mufflers - some of the ones sold today are nothing but 
>> >>>>> tin
>> >>>>> cans with pipes on both ends, while others have proper baffles that
>> (if
>> >>>>> correctly arranged) do a pretty good job of quieting engine sound. 
>> >>>>> If
>> >>>>> you have an OEM muffler that sounds loud, it may be that the 
>> >>>>> baffles
>> >>>>> have simply eroded to nothing over the last 65 years.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> As far as the surging, that suggests attention needs to be paid to
>> the
>> >>>>> governor.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For the clutch adjustment and other similar issues, I always
>> recommend
>> >>>>> that you go to Binder Books<www.binderbooks.com>  and obtain a
>> service
>> >>>>> manual for the tractor.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Mike
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 7/5/2011 9:52 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I've got a few questions concerning my 1945 Farmall A.  I just
>> started
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>> up
>> >>>>>> for the first time in four months yesterday after a paint job. 
>> >>>>>> I'll
>> >>>>> number
>> >>>>>> the questions so that they are easier to reference.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 1.  The tractor runs fabulously.  It starts right up, even after
>> >>>> sitting
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>>> four months, and is the most dependable engine I could want in an
>> old
>> >>>>>> tractor.  My only objection is that the engine surges whenever I
>> >> adjust
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> throttle, unless I slowly creep the throttle up or down.  The
>> surging
>> >>>>> stops
>> >>>>>> if I slow the engine down.  My other tractor, the 1948 Super A, 
>> >>>>>> will
>> >>>>>> also
>> >>>>>> surge but only when the choke is not adjusted at exactly 1/2 
>> >>>>>> choke.
>> >>>>  The
>> >>>>>> 1945 A will not run well unless the choke is completely open.
>>  Because
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> engine on the 1945 A runs so well, I hesitate to do any 
>> >>>>>> adjustments
>> on
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> carb.  Does anyone have any advice?  I can live with the surging,
>> even
>> >>>>>> though it is a little irritating, but I would like to be able to
>> >>>> advance
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> throttle without the concern of the surging.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2.  I used the tractor this winter before a paint job for snow
>> >> removal.
>> >>>>>  I
>> >>>>>> remember thinking that the engine sounded incredibly loud.
>>  Yesterday,
>> >>>> I
>> >>>>> had
>> >>>>>> both tractors out, and the 1945 engine sounds much louder than the
>> >> 1948
>> >>>>>> Super A.  I'm wondering if the muffler is working, since the 
>> >>>>>> muffler
>> >> is
>> >>>>>> original "Stanley" vintage.  Is there any way to clean the soot 
>> >>>>>> out
>> of
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> muffler, without taking it to a muffler shop?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On the other hand, if the muffler is fine, which is something I 
>> >>>>>> may
>> >>>> test
>> >>>>>> soon with my other tractor, what would make the engine sound like 
>> >>>>>> a
>> >> two
>> >>>>>> cylinder?  It has a distinctive "putt-putt" versus the smoothness 
>> >>>>>> of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>>> Super A, although the Super A is not as good an engine.  Like I
>> >>>>> mentioned, I
>> >>>>>> really don't want to mess with the engine since it runs so well.
>>  I'm
>> >>>>>> halfway wondering if the modern ethanol gasoline is part of the
>> >>>> problem!
>> >>>>>> But then again, the muffler could not be working, causing me to 
>> >>>>>> hear
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>>> pure engine firing.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 3.  This question is for anyone who has adjusted, or knows how to
>> >>>>>> adjust,
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>>> Farmall A, B, or C series clutch.  The clutch only begins grabbing
>> >> when
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> pedal is about 1/2 to 1 inch from being completely up.  There is 
>> >>>>>> no
>> >>>>>> freeplay.  How can I adjust the clutch to give me a little 
>> >>>>>> freeplay
>> >> and
>> >>>>>> a
>> >>>>>> longer engagement travel?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ben Wagner
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