[Farmall] [AT] A Few Questions: Mufflers

[Jim Becker]

Not only the same manual, looks like the same copy of the same manual.  It 
is for the later style, most parts the same anyway.  The hardest to find 
parts are the parts of the pressure valve.  I have a functioning system on a 
tractor, however the engine of that tractor is not currently functioning.
Jim Becker

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ben Wagner
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:25 AM
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
Subject: Re: [Farmall] [AT] A Few Questions: Mufflers

Thanks!  The manual is for exactly the same model I've got.

Here's another link to what looks like the same manual from another website
in PDF:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1917631/pneumatic-lift-all-pdf-may-18-2010-4-33-am-605k?da=y

From: http://farmall.winnfreenet.com/downloads.php

Ben Wagner

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM, E. John Puckett
<ejpuckett at centurytel.net>wrote:

> I do not own anything with an exhaust lift, but here is a link to a
> manual for one.  It may not be the same model you have though.
> http://home.centurytel.net/ejpuckett/exhaust%20lift/
>
> On 7/6/2011 7:49 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
> > You are probably right; the Stanley may not be original.  I have heard
> > somewhere along the way that Stanley made IH Mufflers, but I can't find
> > where.  I've got the book here that claims Hayes or Mackensie made the
> Super
> > Series mufflers, but it doesn't mention what the Letter Series used.  I
> > would think the original muffler would be on this tractor, since the
> tractor
> > is original in all parts; I also think the original owner purchased the
> > muffler option with the tractor, since he could spend the money for an
> > exhaust lift.
> >
> > Does anyone know how many of those "Lift All" exhaust lifts for the
> Farmall
> > B and A were made?  How many exist in working condition today?  Speak up
> if
> > you have one; I'd enjoy hearing from other owners.
> >
> > Ben Wagner
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Darrell Ratliff<dbigdog at columbus.rr.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> The Stanley is likely not an original muffler.  It would have had an IH
> >> embossed on it somewhere.  Seeing no baffles is normal.  Most tractor
> >> mufflers don't have them.
> >>
> >> From: Ben Wagner
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:57 PM
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] A Few Questions: Mufflers
> >>
> >> I took the muffler off to take a look, and I can shine a light in at 
> >> one
> >> end.  Looking in from the other end, I see no baffles.  I take it this
> >> muffler is the equivalent of straight pipe exhaust!  This old muffler
> was
> >> made presumably with the tractor, since it is a Stanley.
> >>
> >> I look up in the muffler, and I see little fingers about 1/2 inch long
> all
> >> the way up.  Is this the way the Stanley mufflers were made, without
> >> baffles?
> >>
> >> Ben Wagner
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mike Sloane<mikesloane at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't know much about Farmall A tractors, but there are muffler, and
> >>> there are mufflers - some of the ones sold today are nothing but tin
> >>> cans with pipes on both ends, while others have proper baffles that 
> >>> (if
> >>> correctly arranged) do a pretty good job of quieting engine sound. If
> >>> you have an OEM muffler that sounds loud, it may be that the baffles
> >>> have simply eroded to nothing over the last 65 years.
> >>>
> >>> As far as the surging, that suggests attention needs to be paid to the
> >>> governor.
> >>>
> >>> For the clutch adjustment and other similar issues, I always recommend
> >>> that you go to Binder Books<www.binderbooks.com>  and obtain a service
> >>> manual for the tractor.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> On 7/5/2011 9:52 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
> >>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got a few questions concerning my 1945 Farmall A.  I just 
> >>>> started
> >>>> it
> >>> up
> >>>> for the first time in four months yesterday after a paint job.  I'll
> >>> number
> >>>> the questions so that they are easier to reference.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.  The tractor runs fabulously.  It starts right up, even after
> >> sitting
> >>> for
> >>>> four months, and is the most dependable engine I could want in an old
> >>>> tractor.  My only objection is that the engine surges whenever I
> adjust
> >>> the
> >>>> throttle, unless I slowly creep the throttle up or down.  The surging
> >>> stops
> >>>> if I slow the engine down.  My other tractor, the 1948 Super A, will
> >>>> also
> >>>> surge but only when the choke is not adjusted at exactly 1/2 choke.
> >>   The
> >>>> 1945 A will not run well unless the choke is completely open. 
> >>>> Because
> >>> the
> >>>> engine on the 1945 A runs so well, I hesitate to do any adjustments 
> >>>> on
> >>> the
> >>>> carb.  Does anyone have any advice?  I can live with the surging, 
> >>>> even
> >>>> though it is a little irritating, but I would like to be able to
> >> advance
> >>> the
> >>>> throttle without the concern of the surging.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2.  I used the tractor this winter before a paint job for snow
> removal.
> >>>   I
> >>>> remember thinking that the engine sounded incredibly loud. 
> >>>> Yesterday,
> >> I
> >>> had
> >>>> both tractors out, and the 1945 engine sounds much louder than the
> 1948
> >>>> Super A.  I'm wondering if the muffler is working, since the muffler
> is
> >>>> original "Stanley" vintage.  Is there any way to clean the soot out 
> >>>> of
> >>> the
> >>>> muffler, without taking it to a muffler shop?
> >>>>
> >>>> On the other hand, if the muffler is fine, which is something I may
> >> test
> >>>> soon with my other tractor, what would make the engine sound like a
> two
> >>>> cylinder?  It has a distinctive "putt-putt" versus the smoothness of
> >> the
> >>>> Super A, although the Super A is not as good an engine.  Like I
> >>> mentioned, I
> >>>> really don't want to mess with the engine since it runs so well.  I'm
> >>>> halfway wondering if the modern ethanol gasoline is part of the
> >> problem!
> >>>> But then again, the muffler could not be working, causing me to hear
> >> the
> >>>> pure engine firing.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3.  This question is for anyone who has adjusted, or knows how to
> >>>> adjust,
> >>> a
> >>>> Farmall A, B, or C series clutch.  The clutch only begins grabbing
> when
> >>> the
> >>>> pedal is about 1/2 to 1 inch from being completely up.  There is no
> >>>> freeplay.  How can I adjust the clutch to give me a little freeplay
> and
> >>>> a
> >>>> longer engagement travel?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben Wagner